They haven't addressed it because they can't change it.

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Yes. Random roles give you 10 to 15 times the loot which is what you need in a looter shooter.

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I'm not certain that it's Static vs Random rolls that's necessarily the problem. On Destiny, gear had multiple perks with an element of randomness in what exactly came out of any single drop. In D2, it's gone the other way. The perks aren't [i]just[/i] static, they are [b]fewer[/b]. And I think this is the core of the issue. And the more I think about it, the more I realise it's the core of both sides of the argument. Personally, I'm not sure we need truly random rolls coming back. Having more perks available would certainly help distinguish different items (especially armour) from each other. At the moment two chestplates, or auto rifles, or whatever only really differ in their design. The perks that you can toggle between are limited and, again especially for armour, mean you can have two visibly different but functionally identical pieces of kit. (Great if you care about balance. Crap if you want a reason to keep hold of multiple items of the same category.) If the perks remained static but there were still more of them, it would be easier to make two items from the same category actually feel different. But without the RNG chaos that some people didn't like about D1. Two fixed choices instead of one, for example. And keeping in a mod and/or Masterwork slot means that people can still have an element of personalisation to their gear. On the other hand, if the perks remained few then the return of random rolls wouldn't be quite so bad as it was in D1. With less variables, you would decrease the chance of RNG stacking to give you a God or Garbage Roll. Either way, it would would be nice if Bungie would do [i]something[/i] to liven up the variety equipment. And it can be done without throwing the balance off too far.

Lets do it!

I don't think random rolls will save the game or bring any excitement back, but....but....why the hell not. If you all want balance to go to hell again...👍👍👍👍. Just hope you member these posts.

I am not a fan of the # epidemic that first hit us a few years ago but in this case I am all for it if it wil lget bungies attention to this matter. They can think that having masterworks will be a good enough replacement but lets be honest, that crap is garbage lol

never understood the hype for randomrolls. they made me rage in destiny 1 multiple times. just rememebr the pain of trying getting a fireflzy imago loop. it was close to imposible. and anyone would go for the same 3 OP perks anyway. so it dosent matter.

Should we #GetALife?

This is by far the number 1 reason people quit! Without the grind for that perfect roll or strike specific loot with a god roll the replay of D2 content is truly meaningless. #randomrolls

Yes bungie bring random rolls back I want that grind that d1 had

Also #BarrelRoll ang #EggRoll

Only guys that don’t really play would say no to random rolls. Static is horrible common ordinary and boring. Come on bungie support those who play your game the most. They cry when a static roll kills them too. Bring back random rolls!

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about a month ago i made a post on the D2 forums. It is in feedback called ☆Best of Both Rolls☆. If anybody wants to go show it support the more Bungie might see it. i just want bungie to make it better for all us Guardians. Thanks, keep up the Light [quote]Trying to look at this like the Vex, Past&Present&Future. No one system is perfect but perhaps we can reach one that considers everyones opinion. 1st let us try to UNDERSTAND the position of both sides. ☆ Static Rollers want a legit weapon that does what it says it does. The 'Get what you pay for' mentality. I can empathize, some want to know what they are going to get, and not want to spend endless hours chasing a gun that RNG might not drop. Better Devils, Uriels Gift, Last Hope, Nameless have all made a Name for themselves (yup, intended) because of what they do. Every1 knows what to expect, its power, limitations and capabilites. That is Fair, these are trusted to do what the Devs intended. ☆However over time, once these weapons are obtained (by majority), that sense of discovery, urge to do an activity, and loot at the end of the tunnel looses its flair. Moreover the only difference between my Uriels and yours is the Shader&Masterwork trait. Bottom line Diversity and Variety get the short end right? They suffer currently. The sandbox becomes stale because:what is good is good, and what is bad is essentially bad. There is no mystery or hidden meta. Just look at Trails report for evidence. Fighting Calus? Use the Meta. Playing Trails? Use the Meta. No sense of discovery or 'ahh' moments. ☆Random Rollers want excitement, the chase of the unknown, and don't mind the endless hours of grinding because: they will play the content anyway until the next batch of goodies drops. So give us something to chase. Through all those hours of playing, every gun may not be G-roll status, but some hidden gems may be found in the mire, and at best be FUN to use. ☆ Over the course of time some of the weapons obtained have their own unique sense of flavor. You bond with it knowing that maybe your arsenal is truly original. A Nightshade with full-auto trigger system instead of kill clip, Better Devils with Triple tap, Jiangshi with Rampage, Mannanan with third eye, Uriels gift with Candle sight. Just examples of how diverse and expanded the sandbox meta COULD be. Raid loadouts would differ, crucible builds would be more creative and less restrictive. The longevity between seasons would increase, new stratigies could be fabricated, and the skill cieling would rise. More loot for "Endgame Chasers". ☆ Even in D1 there was a meta with Random Rolls. Clever Dragon, Matador, And almost every Palindrome was good, at least viable. However now in D2 the problem with all Static Rolls is that there literally is no competition or challenger to a static meta. New guns added at the moment get compared to whats good now and if it falls short it will collect dust in the vault. With a Hybrid System in place Guardians have the CHOICE what to chase & would add the distinct personality and uniqueness to their builds, not to mention overall sandbox. Sense of Random Mystery for the Endgame Chasers. Consitiency for the Causal. Best of both Rolls. ☆ Static Rolls drop in these events: Normal Nightfall, Normal raid, Strikes, Non-Flashpoint Public Events, Quickplay, Weekly vendor resets. Rahool the Fool ☆Random Rolls Drop in these events: Prestige Nightfall&Raid, Flashpoint Public Events, Lost Sectors, Heroic Adventures and Strikes, Competitive Crucible(encourage less rage quiting) and Tyra Khan(she needs some love) ☆Additionally they could do Arms day-Choose an archetype of weapon(H.C., Auto rifle, smg) on Arms day he has both the static and Random roll that way if you need it you can aquire it, and if you have it you might get that G-roll. Also Planet vendors should Drop both rolls every engram qnd offer both on reset. The choice. ☆This may not please everyone in all camps, but i do feel it would please majority no matter your preference. Got only a few hours to grind? Chase that static Auto rifle you missing. Got the whole day off with nothing to do? Create a stream, load up prestige Arms Dealer chasing that random roll for hours on end. Bottom line i think the CHOICE of the chase is just as important. Give us the choice then leave the Decision to us. ☆Id love to hear more from other Guardians, we alone did not make this community but together we can build like the last city, feel free to express and discuss, i am but one Guardian, but all our opinions matter. ☆p.s. thanks Bungie for making a Destiny we share!

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I have been saying this since they announced it before the release of D2 and lo and behold here we are. I would love to have random rolls back however it would need to have some back ups that help adjust the weapons how we would like for them to handle. ie: a way to re-roll said perks with increasing cost each time said weapon is re-rolled, better mods that adjust specific stats like lowering one and raising another, or a way to craft a random weapon like a hand cannon or a rocket launcher that have random perks on it. Just some thoughts. Not like they will go heard though lol.