Can't save the pvp in this game as the entire system is fake and shame. You win as often as you lose unless you are part of a 4 man team anyway it's rigged it's idiotic fully unrewarding. I know when i get less then 15 kills it's because I'm in a round i do not belong in where everyone or atleast 3 out 4 of the people on the opposing team are nearly an entire second ahead of me stomping the life out of me before i can even lower their shield. Then when i get rounds where i get 30-35+ kills i can't even get excited because i know it's bullshit nothing to do with me it is a combination of the bungie perk for losing in previous rounds and having a better connection then the other team. It is stupid pointless shit that quite frankly everyone knows is rigged and fake whether their ego will allow them to admit it or not. For the average player they do considerably better now as they are guaranteed to win as many as they lose for me however it's boring and stupid. Then of course you have to take into account the mass use of auto aimers in the game and the gun bungie made intentionally for their use. The 450 rpm autorifles they increased the critical damage on these not long ago to pretty much insure that anyone using it with an auto aimer wins everytime.