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1/4/2018 8:12:19 PM
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Eververse didnt piss of the whole playerbase its like 500-700 of you circle jerking the same post with no real solution to fix it. Cause you can bet they wont remove her completely.
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  • Edited by perdomo1479: 1/4/2018 8:49:06 PM
    you just made up a number. theres over 100,000 dislikes im guessing 500 people made 200 accounts each.

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  • [quote]Eververse didnt piss of the whole playerbase its like 500-700 of you circle jerking the same post with no real solution to fix it. Cause you can bet they wont remove her completely.[/quote] Eververse is a major issue with this game compared to the destiny 1 eververse. 500-700 is an ungodly understatement. And thousands of posts have been made since the game launched with tons of suggestions for improvement. I've made a few myself in the past. The real problem here is BUNGIE DOESN'T LISTEN TO THEIR PLAYERS. The #removereververse is about making them listen. They only promise and then try mediocre compromises that solve anything. I highly doubt they will remove eververse myself, but it doesn't mean I'm going to stop fighting for it to be removed. And no one here is circle jerking anything. We are all trying to save a series we love. Destiny 1 was a sad shit show when it first launched, but the turned it completely around. But then went back to the drawing board and acted like destiny 1 was a faded memory. Here are some examples of why we are fighting for change. Shaders, destiny 1 all unlimited uses and don't take up vault space. Destiny 2 limited uses, cost glimmer to apply, take up a LOT of vault space and you can only delete them ONE AT A TIME. Weapons and armor. Destiny 1, random rolls on almost everything giving tons of unique loadouts and play styles, a very large pool of weapons and armor earned from a lot of different activities. Destiny 2 maybe 1/4 the amount of weapons and armor even after the dlc came out, static rolls on everything, masterworks is a -blam!-ing joke compared to what we asked for, I hit level cap and earned pretty much everything to get me there without ever touching the raid. And not to mention bringing old exotics back? $60 to play with some of the SAME guns and armor all over again. Eververse, when it came in destiny 1 bungie promised it would never involve pay to win. And until destiny 2 that was pretty much true. I didn't mind eververse because the shit there was mostly just goofy or bland and barely offered anything I felt I needed to earn. They had some cool things here and there and it was ok. Destiny 2, -blam!- IT let's put tons shaders in there, one time use by the way, let's through some armor in there, fine it looks like shit anyway, next up ships sparrows and emotes. Where else can you them?.... Sounds like you have a lot of promising options. Now ghost shells too?? Ghost shells offer in game perks that give you an advantage. A small and mostly overlooked advantage but still one. WHOA! we just crossed the pay to win line there, armor was cutting it close but the armor is all at like 5 or 10 power level so not really gaining much there, but the ghost shells offer the ability to spend money and gain additional perks for pve or PvP activities. That's dirty after "promising" it wouldn't happen. And lastly we have the XP boosters. How in the world is this not pay to win?? Consume it to earn more xp? Earning more xp sounds a hell of a lot like an advantage to me. These are just 3 topics I touched on. I have MANY more comparisons I could go into. And I know this isn't Destiny 1 but it was supposed to continue our adventure not restart it. However these are all just my opinions, gathered by my observations game play experiences over the last 3-4 years of playing Destiny 1 and 2. Buuuuuut at the end of the day I'm just part of the 500-700 circle jerking morons here who just complain.

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  • Edited by SolarCerberuS: 1/4/2018 10:14:38 PM
    You are like many others off on pay to win. Pay to win would be if the ghosts had a + 10% to damage modifier exclusive to the ev items. Besides paying at ev is optional I have 2 exotic ghosts through earned bright engrams an to be perfectly honest you cant really tell much difference having it equipped or not. Exp modifiers are also not pay to win all they do is they alleviate the grind (very slightly) to get cosmetic engrams slightly faster (lets be honest its nothing to write home about) and are more a gimmick than actually useful. Someone who plays a mere hour or 2 more that week would negate any benefit gained by the ghosts by another player.

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  • [quote]You are like many others off on pay to win. Pay to win would be if the ghosts had a + 10% to damage modifier exclusive to the ev items. Besides paying at ev is optional I have 2 exotic ghosts through earned bright engrams an to be perfectly honest you can really tell much difference having it equipped or not. Exp modifiers are also not pay to win all they do is they alleviate the grind (very slightly) to get cosmetic engrams slightly faster (lets be honest its nothing to write home about) and are more a gimmick than actually useful. Someone who plays a mere hour or 2 more that week would negate any benefit gained by the ghosts by another player.[/quote] Well like I said they are very small advantages your gain, but an advantage regardless. And if I am paying for something that offers an advantage in any form, that is pay-to-win. And in current don't play destiny any hours of the week, but before I pulled myself from the game I was playing about 4-6 hours a day and maybe 6 days a week. So I know you can earn them without buy them. Buuuuuut, and it's a big but....that's where the xp scam came in to play, and I did notice it when I was playing but at the time I paid no attention because I was doing faction rally stuff and not trying to farm bright engrams. All this crazy stuff aside, any time anyone pays for anything in any video game that offers any advantage over a player who did not pay for it that's called pay to win. No matter how big or small the advantage is. Besides that point right there ^ you can earn mods from bright engrams as well. Stay with me now because it's probably going to get confusing for.you here, but mods go on weapons and armor to alter their stats. Hmmmmmm........ Mods are also used to UPGRADE THE LEVEL OF YOUR GEAR HMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM........... So $=Engrams And Engrams= XP boosters, ghost shells with perks to aid in pve and PvP, and weapon and armor mods And and Weapon and Armor mods= Advantage over someone without. I may sound like an idiot or an ass, either way I am not wrong.

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