[quote]How is it possible for you guys to ruin the PvP that much.... In D1 it was easy to kill like 2 or 3 ppl. Nowadays you have to be lucky that there isn't someone with a xim4 on pc or that you don't run into like 4ppl all the time while your team is playing tetris at starting points. .[/quote] I'll never understand why people don't get how to counter teams of people. You know how you keep yourself from getting ganged up on and slaughtered by a team of 4? It's simple: [b][u]YOU STOP TRYING TO BE AN MLG LONE WOLF HERO And STOP RUNNING OFF BY YOURSELF[/u][/b] There is absolutely nothing wrong with people working as a team to take down the enemy. D2 is a team based pvp shooter. If you aren't smart enough to see that the other team is sticking together and adapt to that, it's on you. It takes literally zero communication to stick with your team in D2. You literally just follow at least 1 person around. No mic, no fireteam, no party chat needed. Teamwork is a smart strategy, it doesn't need fixing, [b][u]you need to adapt. [/u][/b] [quote]Give us our old PvP back where us guardians where able to go into PvP and win a match by ourself so we don't have to count on our team if they play like 2yer old kids[/quote] This is silly. No legit, balanced, team-based pvp should allow 1 person to win the game without using his teammates at all. If you can single handedly take on 4 people and win that pvp is broken. Unless you're some pvp God (which 99% of us aren't) you shouldn't be able to win matches by yourself. That's a broken pvp, plain and simple.

[quote]In D1 it was easy to kill like 2 or 3 ppl.[/quote] it still is, just you can't shotgun rush or sniper camp anymore. you have to actually use some sort of strategy now.

You can win some 2v1's just gotta be a invis hunter with last hope or smg to do so 😂 I die a lot though trying to win those lmfao. Half the time I'll turn the corner and see 3 or 4 guys sitting on top of each other but by then I'm already committed and mistakes had been made lmao. What's sad is say trials which is supposed to take skill.... a team of 4 potatoes sitting on top of each other can be almost as difficult as a team of 4kds running around holding hands... because even the 4kds don't go for 1v1's they never push by themselves because they will lose 90% of those battles since the skill gap in this game is so low which will result in their kd dropping.... (They do push solo against bad teams but not against a team with thumbs). It gets rather dull playing the revolutionary war simulator. Prolly why my KD is only 1.5 I can't stand sticking with my team it's ungodly boring I prefer to push, pinch, flank.

So... your complaint is that you can't run in and 1v4 a team? You don't want to have to rely on your other teammates at all? I'm just trying to understand your concern here. I played D1 and I don't remember coming away with too many 1v4 wins.

So add back in OP abilities and the ability to use shotguns as a crutch? Just because more skill is needed doesn't mean its worse then D1 MP

Agreed. If they reduced the time to kill across the board it would make a big difference and reduce the team shot meta.

Had two enemy teammates hiding a box last night, I was on my Warlock. In D1 one Nothing Manacles Scatter Grenade would killed them both. In D2 I may as well throw jelly beans.