This isn't CoD. This is Destiny. [b]Using space magic is what defines Destiny and what sets it apart from other games.[/b] Putting PvE and PvP together does not work. You cannot reconcile the two - they have completely different needs and skill requirements. Placating to one hurts the other when they are tied to the same sandbox. You'd think after 3 years of repeated failure to balance the two together that you'd have learned this lesson by now....
[b]The Bungie Update mentioned ability "tweaks", but it ALSO mentioned the fact that abilities like our grenades and melees should be "rare". [/b]This is clearly a PvP decision due to the excessive whining about grenade and melee deaths. This decision is made at the expense of PvE, which is the actual game. [b]Destiny isn't about guns - it's about Nova Bombs, Golden Guns, Tripmines, Axion Bolts, and Fists that frequently induce Havoc.[/b]
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I really don't understand how people keep saying this game is about using space magic... You really don't remember getting excited when your first Gjallarhorn dropped? Or whatever other gun you were excited for? I guess all you cared about was leveling up your toon high enough to use those awesome sticky grenades? Sure space magic is a part of the game. But jiminy cricket, this game is so much about chasing loot! How do you not see that? That means GUNS. Just chill out. This game isn't even out yet. Bungie. Please. Please do not listen to these forums ever.
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With all these posts about supers being rare, I just want mine to be medium well
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Edited by Architect Mind: 8/12/2017 8:29:41 PMUgh, this is getting crazy. Bungie, here's a great idea...just stop listening to your fan base. It's so divided, just, throw some shit at us, enjoyable shit. -blam!- it, let's go generic Oh, grenades and melee rare because of PvP, no it's fine to have in PvP , the supers flying all over was the problem. Supers are CoD in PvP, but what ever you guys are crazy...ill play it, not care, get bored, go back to another game.
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Edited by Legion: 8/12/2017 7:10:31 PMThey did say they would tweak the time for supers on PvE allowing it to charge faster, how fast? I cannot say, but the tweaks will now be separate. Unless of course you are bitching they change it for both and disguising it as a PvE sided post, but secretly want it done in PvP because you know most people will not care otherwise. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
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Edited by Dezzie19: 8/12/2017 12:09:01 PMThe promo vids shows supers galore so Bungie you know thats what people like so why rip it out of the game? Becauae you want the e-sport cash that's why. And pvp is cheaper to produce and makes more profit.
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We want our space magic. Thats what makes destiny, destiny. Its what makes it unique and different from cod and all other fps. I know people were calling it ability spam simulator but that is what makes it destiny and sets it apart from all other games. We wanna play ability spam simulator. Otherwise why not just play cod and other similar fps.
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COD stands for [b]children online daycare[/b], not call of duty.
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I think im going to cancel my pre order and wait for the angry review.....and this time ill listen to angry joe lol[spoiler]who am i kidding ill proably wait until there is a price drop and force my friends to carry me through the boring stuff to get better rewards than them like i did for others in D1[/spoiler]
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https://www.bungie.net/en/Forum/Post/229943891/0/0 Apparently grenades are going to be more powerful than they have been in the beta and D1. So I wouldn't worry about the "space magic" aspect of destiny being neutered.
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In COD abilities are common, if you wanted it to be less like COD you would want them to be rare...
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Edited by Talonia_: 8/12/2017 3:49:15 PMCall it a difference of opinion
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Grenades...rare.?? What a contradiction to introduce a grenade launcher, that sucks anyway.
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Yay! Now my shitty hunter dodge is even more rare while still being equally as bad! Fantastic news can't wait!! /Sarcasm
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I had been saying to seperate PVE and PVP two years ago before I took a year and a half break from Destiny. I just recently got RoI. In the past, weapon nerfs and horrible Taken King weapons infuriated me because it was due PVP. It seems PVP got nerfed now...and the shoe is on the other foot. They will not seperate it. They seem determined to keep PVP tied to PVE.
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Just curious. You take your gamer tag from the Morgan Llewellyn book,or from just a more general liking of the Gaulish legend? If you haven't read the book,I highly recommend it. Druids. One of her better works. Also, Red Branch is great. My favorite book of all time,possibly...
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Has anyone else noticed...? The 'PvP keeps the game alive' people have been pretty quiet in recent weeks. Destiny is on the ground, bleeding out, and the smoking gun is in PvP's hand.
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Dont worry, ive been playing a bit of black ops 3 pvp lately and i can tell you how it is. I get my war machine super to pop 2 sometimes 3 times during a 12 person match. Which, as im sure you know, is 2 to 3 times more often than in a match of 4 vs4 during the destiny 2 Beta.
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Edited by xilxad: 8/12/2017 12:07:15 PMBungie is the only entertainment producer in the history of the world whose sole purpose seems to be finding out how far their fans loyalty will stretch before breaking. They believe they can sell you a turd and you will "throw money at the screen" they laugh about it, they think you are all mindless addicts that cant possibly help yourselves. After wiping the drool from your little chins mom will surely hand you the bank card. They (Bungie) have zero respect for any of us. They have rock star syndrome. And it will catch up to them someday.
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While it pains me to say it. You may just wish to give up the crusade. Come to terms with D2 as it is. Save your hope for Borderlands 3 & Anthem. Yes we have no details but even if BL3 fails to surpass BL2 it will be the game folks expect it to be. Anthem will be either what folks hope it will be or it'll be a good to decent shooter like Warframe's first 2 years. Speaking of which if you're bored. Dabble in Warframe.
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Our abilities did not look so "rare" in that multiplayer video, to sell the game. 🤔 I guess "gunskill" is too boring for tv.lol As my man Doc Holliday would say... [i]My hypocrisy only goes so far[/i]
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Just like the first 3 years, we will yell telling bungie to seperate pvp from everything else.....but nope. this will be no different.
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I like my abilities medium rare... [spoiler]...and B O N E L E S S[/spoiler]
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Well said!