Most of the "hate" topics or posts are actual criticism, and because it is counter to your or other's optimistic outlook on D2, you classify it as hate. The fact that the forums are divided, for the most part, one extreme or another, with people who are either very critical and are not very optimistic about what they are seeing, and those that have to defend it, is not very good. Most of the people that I have seen defending D2 content so far are basing it off of the fact that they loved D1 so much. I have grown more and more sick of the lazy re-skinned content given to us for D1 over the last 1.5 years and highly expected fundamental game changes, not just new content. There is a need for constructive criticism, and that's not hate. I don't want any more re-skins, I don't see a need for new subclasses, I don't see a need for completely revamping the weapon system (PVE?), I don't see how universal weapon perks will improve the game. Bungie has not given us direct explanations as to how these are fundamental improvements. Just like you said, these are ingredients, and they may be good or bad, but right now all we have is a game that looks like more of the same ol Destiny with unnecessary changes that may or may not pan out. Show me needed changes that people have actually asked for on these forums, like mappable items and weapons to the d-pad, a confirmed larger vault or some way to store, sort and organize lots or stuff we collect, a deeper character customization for variety, open world and not just the promise of "larger patrol", larger fire teams like 6 man patrols and missions, I could go on and on. This is why there is criticism, it looks like Destiny 1 with unneeded change, not needed improvements. Simple.