You said he got it from a random drop and didn't explain any further so how was I supposed to get that he got it from crucible? [quote]my brother got it as his first exotic from a random drop.[/quote] YOUR OWN WORDS! And even if he got it from crucible as a random drop, I got a whole stinking ONE exotic drop by playing crucible in Y1. Just one. Its extremely rare to get exotics at all outside the endgame, let alone one like G-horn. I'm not missing the point your trying to make, I understand your point, I just completely disagree.