[quote]It's an exotic like any other it's not an endgame gun (excluding vex and necro and touch and outbreak which are by definition raid exotics) my brother got it as his first exotic from a random drop.[/quote] Yeah, some lucky few got it early from Xur as well. Doesn't change the fact that it's really an endgame quality gun. A majority of people who got in in Y1 got it from doing endgame content, and the gun is endgame quality in that it reduced grind. [quote] It's also actually a pretty good argument as too why it's nerfed it being nerfed had nothing to do with the light level teams that say 335+ or whatever's they would have done that regardless[/quote] VEHEMENTLY disagree on this. People who restricted access on raids because they wanted players who met certain prerequisite requirements was always going to happen and nerfing G-horn didn't change that in the slightest. It only changed what they required, which you admit, they are going to do anyways. If the goal is to deter people from restricting access from raids then nerfing the G-horn did NOTHING to stop that. They simply can't fight LFG elitism with nerfs because then we will have nothing fun and exciting to grind for. They simply can't stop people from exercising a measure of control about who they let in their fireteams, which, btw, they have EVERY right to do. You can't make Johnny play with Sally on the playground if he doesn't want to, and its not good for either party to force them to do so. The ONLY TRULY good solution to this problem is for those who complain about the elitism to make some friends of their own. My group never discriminated against players who didn't have the elite stuff. We simply said "come raid with us, maybe you'll get it." I support optional matchmaking to provide a viable alternative to LFG to help people who are in that position, but even then it is not an ideal solution. It'll present its own problems as well. The only way around this is to make friends of your own who also play the game.