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1/13/2017 5:54:39 PM
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The issue wasn't that it was hard to get or that it took a while though, the issue was that they -blam!-in nerfed it! Its not a bad thing to grind hard for a great item like G-horn. Its a bad thing to nerf it shortly after people actually get their hands on one....
TERRIBLE move on Bungie's part.
And FYI, I only got my G-horn a few weeks before HoW launched. Made due without one and was better off for it. I learned how to get the job done with Dragons Breath and Truth where others would rely on G-Horn. It made me a better player. A smarter player.
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Well they nerfed it becasue it excluded a lot of people from many activities. You could rarely ever find a group that would let you raid with them without a gally and I mean let's be honest it made strikes and nightfall easy mode cause it melted bossses
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[quote]Well they nerfed it becasue it excluded a lot of people from many activities. [/quote] This is a terrible argument IMO. Not that I don't think the people complaining about it don't have legitimate complaints, but nerfing the G-horn was NEVER the answer. It just changed people's requirements (must be LL 335 + have challenge emblems + have spindle + ToM). Nerfing was never the answer. Also, I know it wasn't easy for people who didn't have it, but this is why LFG, optional matchmaking Matchmaking, etc. are ALWAYS going to be an imperfect solution to doing endgame content. If you want to do endgame content regularly, you NEED to make friends who play the game. Every single Destiny player should know this by now and simply accept it as part of the social nature of this game. [quote]I mean let's be honest it made strikes and nightfall easy mode cause it melted bossses[/quote] Isn't this what an endgame gun is supposed to do? You grind several 100, maybe 1000 hours to get this thing. Shouldn't it be that powerful and shouldn't it be worth getting? I think so. Endgame guns need to be that good in order to provide incentive to repeatedly do endgame content, and thereafter, to reduce the grind. That is what made Y1 so much fun to play EVEN AFTER you got all of the best stuff - the same ol' grind wasn't "same ol'" anymore.
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Edited by SynK Deagle: 1/13/2017 6:16:00 PMIt's an exotic like any other it's not an endgame gun (excluding vex and necro and touch and outbreak which are by definition raid exotics) my brother got it as his first exotic from a random drop. It's also actually a pretty good argument as too why it's nerfed it being nerfed had nothing to do with the light level teams that say 335+ or whatever's they would have done that regardless Edit: Sorry for the punctuation I'm lazy and busy at the moment to fix it
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[quote]It's an exotic like any other it's not an endgame gun (excluding vex and necro and touch and outbreak which are by definition raid exotics) my brother got it as his first exotic from a random drop.[/quote] Yeah, some lucky few got it early from Xur as well. Doesn't change the fact that it's really an endgame quality gun. A majority of people who got in in Y1 got it from doing endgame content, and the gun is endgame quality in that it reduced grind. [quote] It's also actually a pretty good argument as too why it's nerfed it being nerfed had nothing to do with the light level teams that say 335+ or whatever's they would have done that regardless[/quote] VEHEMENTLY disagree on this. People who restricted access on raids because they wanted players who met certain prerequisite requirements was always going to happen and nerfing G-horn didn't change that in the slightest. It only changed what they required, which you admit, they are going to do anyways. If the goal is to deter people from restricting access from raids then nerfing the G-horn did NOTHING to stop that. They simply can't fight LFG elitism with nerfs because then we will have nothing fun and exciting to grind for. They simply can't stop people from exercising a measure of control about who they let in their fireteams, which, btw, they have EVERY right to do. You can't make Johnny play with Sally on the playground if he doesn't want to, and its not good for either party to force them to do so. The ONLY TRULY good solution to this problem is for those who complain about the elitism to make some friends of their own. My group never discriminated against players who didn't have the elite stuff. We simply said "come raid with us, maybe you'll get it." I support optional matchmaking to provide a viable alternative to LFG to help people who are in that position, but even then it is not an ideal solution. It'll present its own problems as well. The only way around this is to make friends of your own who also play the game.
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No he actually got it from crucible as a random drop and those who got it from atleast the ones I've talked too had it disappear after bungie changed it, the only thing I can deduce from this discussion with you is that you use a lot of words for really no reason and you're not understanding what I'm saying by focusing on one sentence when it's the whole post you need to understand. Nice chat friend.
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You said he got it from a random drop and didn't explain any further so how was I supposed to get that he got it from crucible? [quote]my brother got it as his first exotic from a random drop.[/quote] YOUR OWN WORDS! And even if he got it from crucible as a random drop, I got a whole stinking ONE exotic drop by playing crucible in Y1. Just one. Its extremely rare to get exotics at all outside the endgame, let alone one like G-horn. I'm not missing the point your trying to make, I understand your point, I just completely disagree.
