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originally posted in:The Ashen Conflux
Edited by Cosmo:
8/22/2016 4:12:42 AM
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SIVA Was made by Clovis Bray
So, here we have some Lore. We found out that SIVA was made by Clovis Bray, and here's how. So, engrams were first made by Clovis after studying relic crystals. [url=http://www.ishtar-collective.net/items/in-good-temper-2?highlight=Bray]link[/url]
Bungie said on a podcast that SIVA was a more advanced technology of engrams used to build entire cities in the golden age.
In gameplay of one of the new strikes, we saw that there are these collectable "dormant SIVA fragments" that unlock grimoire cards, Clovis Bray 1.5 and others around that. [url=https://imgur.com/a/8enmM]link[/url]
In another grimoire card, one of Clovis's collaborates was sharing test results, including [u]the last 5 million runs of our AI initiative.[/u] [url=http://www.ishtar-collective.net/cards/ghost-fragment-clovis-bray#bray-family]link[/url]
So, we now know that SIVA, or atleast the tech for SIVA came from Clovis Bray. Thanks to my fellow members of The Ashen Conflux lore clan. If you have any questions feel free to ask below.
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Edited by Cyber_219: 8/24/2016 10:37:18 AMThe number of likes on this post is the same number from Ghost Fragment: DO. A-[b]113[/b]. Oh no
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This is really damn solid. Good work! Can you link to the podcast about the engram/SIVA connection along with a time it's mentioned?
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4 RepliesWhat's a lore clan? I love lore! Would like to learn more! Thanks! Interesting theory btw!
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2 RepliesIs it a tech version of the Flood?
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43 RepliesEdited by AustinSX: 8/22/2016 11:35:16 AMSiva was made by actibungie as an excuse to once again reskin old assets and call it a new enemy instead of making new ones, just like the taken. Loling at all the butthurt kids who can't handle criticism of things they like
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I didn't need more hype but that Clovis Bray fragment just added to it, sent chills through my spine. Thanks for sharing! I'm excited to collect them just like the Book of Sorrows.
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2 RepliesUsually these lore posts are a bunch of nonsense made by people who have no idea what they're talking about. Not this one, you actually provided evidence. Good going and nice find
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No, it was me
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4 RepliesThanks for sharing this info. It's too bad this lore isn't in-game.
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2 RepliesSiva is nano bots very advanced nano bots
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Siva is Sida [spoiler]:D[/spoiler]
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5 RepliesSo, after this whole siva incident is over and the story progresses destiny 2 and so on. Will we ever harness or utilize siva technology along with other tech from the golden age? Will there eventually be a second golden age?
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This could just be background lore, something to answer the "but how will humanity rebuild" argument. To me it feels like a lore-breaking idea, if a device could limitlessly build then it could limitless destroy, thus saving humanity from anything that could exist to end humanity.
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They rushed the technology to stay ahead of The Ishtar Collective. Apple vs Android kind of thing.
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3 RepliesWill the real Cozmo please stand up
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2 Repliesi have not really read Clovis Bray grimoire which do you suggest I read i mainly stick to the legends and mysteries grimoires and also the weapons and like the tower allies.
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1 ReplyIt's actually five billion runs of AI Initiative. Clovis had some interesting things to say.
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11 RepliesWho is Clovis Bray?
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1 ReplyEdited by xcutioner_0: 8/22/2016 10:05:19 PMGreat post much excellent 👍 I've got a theory about those Dormant SIVA Clusters. I've been thinking that those corrupted Omolon and SUROS weapons aren't really raid weapons, but are new foundry weapons infused with those Dormant SIVA Clusters. Like if you collect a certain amount of the Clusters, it unlocks a new option for you to infuse a Cluster into your Armsday order which you can pickup next week. [spoiler]unless those weapons have already been confirmed as Raid weapons, ignore the above theory :)[/spoiler]
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1 ReplySeriously though...nice work on the loring its guys like you that make this community great keep it up
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I think its a game....and the speaker is actually the antagonist..but we as players wont find out until destiny 3/4 but only after bungie makes as much money off of us as possible with dlcs and emotes. Fun to play but other than that whobgives a shat
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3 RepliesI saw Clitoris....
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I ironically believe they actually just put this in, and you care more than bungie does.
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1 ReplySo like Ultron? Now that I'm free, I have no strings on me! Lol
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9 RepliesIt seemed Clovis was studying the narrator. This narrator being his "son". But what if the son was an exo, maybe the first with consciousness. Or some other creation. Obviously the cold dorms he described were for the exo. Maybe not but I don't think these prove or disprove that SIVA was created by Clovis himself. Only that he may have played a role in their creation. Maybe the exo felt like children to him and created SIVA to fulfill his goal of expansion into the universe
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5 RepliesSo... What are relic crystals? I've never heard of that before. Are they mentioned in other Grimoire cards?
