It's a totally viable argument based on the ridiculous ones i see from Xbox players. They owe you nothing. Plans change. I'm sorry you don't own the better console *for Destiny* but it is what it is.

So you're saying it's perfectly fine to argue stupidity with stupidity? No. That's a cop out. You should be more mature than the person and if you can't be then you shouldn't be replying at all and just move on. Both consoles have out of hand fans. They owe us an explanation. They lied. From where i'm sitting they don't stand to make any extra money from this decision and it doesn't benefit new PS4 players in the slightest. If the exotics were given to them at moment of purchase maybe. If RoI itself didn't have any PS exclusive content maybe. But RoI does. And those players will have to go out and find the exotics. Go out and get lucky with a drop for those strike guantlets. and they get to sit in the tower and look at all their fellow PS4 players run around with the gear because they've had it for a year. Unless they can give an actual reason as to why other than giving the middle finger to a good portion of it's supporting fans then i'm going to continue to be angry with them. and I will continue to complain about it. and I will never let it go. I still haven't let go of the exotics we were mislead to believe would be in TTK. I still haven't let go of their choice to remove the dedicated teleporting in VoG because it was a "bug." And I won't let go of this either.

I never said you shouldn't be angry. I'm just saying the point is moot. You can rattle the cage and piss and moan and whine and whatever else, but the fact is, they've lied before (ex.: "Your Y1 guns won't be left behind.") and then offered no explanation or anything. It happens. I'm not saying it's right. I'm just saying that it's something that people are either going to accept or it's something that will cause them to leave. That sucks, but is what it is. Now you preach immaturity and then, in the same post, talk about how you will never let this go and you'll continue to be angry and complain. That's fine. I'm just saying the odds of them actually replying or addressing it are slim to none so you stand to do nothing but annoy other people, but that's your prerogative. Do you. Not sure what you're complaining about with dedicated teleporting, but if you're still sour about something in VoG, then WOW.

Then I apologize. Because it seemed initially that you were defending the choice. I get the point that things might not change. But then again they could. I was one of the few who said private matches weren't possible for destiny. Look at destiny now. I choose not to give in because nothing good becomes of it. If I start to believe my voice isn't important or doesn't have an impact then at least for me my life becomes boring and sad. You can be mature and complain. It's not like i'm calling Bungie names or asking for someone to get fired. Those would be immature. Me stating that i'm angry over a blatent lie and demanding only a good reason for doing so doesn't seem like i'm asking for much. I'm referring to the fact that when destiny first came out Atheon would teleport the three guardians that were the farthest away from him. Bungie later down the line removed this and the reason was "oh it was a bug." I'm not a game designer. But I do know a bit of coding. And I know people who are/have gone to school for programming. That is 100% not a bug. You HAVE to code something like that. This leaves us with 2 legit reasons for changing it. 1)Bungie was not fond of the strat and wanted randomness to play into the factor of difficulty. You'd think this to be easily seen as bad. But their idea of fixing cheeses in raids or adding difficulty isn't good to begin with. Just look at the mess that was crota's end. Or 2) when the raid team was designing VoG the intended effect was to be random. But there was a miscommunication between the designer and the programmer. And the programmer put in this line of code that made Atheon teleport the 3 farthest people. I also believe this is relevant to our topic about the extended PS nonsense because the frustration isn't about the content. Jade rabbit could be hereafter levels of trash. Just as vault of glass isn't light relevant anymore. It's the principal of the situation. We were told a year and then at the last moment lied to. The 3 teleport strat added a cool dynamic to the fight and assigned people with roles. Something that outside of running the relic in 1 of the 3 raids is sorely absent. The cut exotics were shown to us in footage as fully functioning and even sat in the database as "ttk" obtainable until recently. If anything Bungie is a prime example of how you DON'T market and how you SHOULDN'T communicate to your fans. After watching and hearing luke smith talk about raid design stories i'm even more puzzled on why they removed the strat.

And them going from the 3 farthest to 3 random (making the raid harder and, to me, more fun and more like a raid should be) really made you that mad that you still won't let go of it?

You seem to believe I let this effect my daily life. Or that' i'm pissed off. Neither are the case. I explained why I liked how it was before. And that my complaint is about the principal of the situation more then anything. Had Bungie been real with us about why it was changed I could forgive. But they chose not to. Therefor I hold it against them in some capacity still. It doesn't matter how long ago it happened either. It's like saying I should say that my ex who used me for sex didn't do wrong just because it had been so long ago. I've moved on from her. But I still think she's a pretty shit person about not being up front with what she wanted. But perhaps I hold people's word to highly these days. The internet is wide spread and people don't bat an eye at someone making another feel like trash over the internet.

I agree. I don't know how little or big of an effect anything has on you since I don't know you. I wouldn't begin to assume. I'm just saying that feels like something so insignificant to be holding onto. Anyways, I understand your feelings pertaining to the principle of things here. It sucks they lied and it sucks even more that by the time this content gets to you, it'll be (likely) rendered pointless by Destiny 2, although that was always bound to happen with whatever the last DLC would be given the way they do exclusives. Honestly, I think what happened is that they didn't have any, or very little, to give us as exclusives in RoI, so they just carried over this mess which doesn't do us much good but screws you over. That sucks, but like I've said..An explanation probably isn't coming, at least not a good one.

I can agree from an outside perspective me holding onto something as small as that would seem off. But at least I don't let it sour my enjoyment with the game. Just as I'm still going to have RoI and have fun playing it. I just wish devs could handle their communication and marketing better.