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1). Just because you say vog was harder then king's fall (i disagree) it doesn't automatically make it better. 2). As for the rewards (yes rng sucks) you actually get more for opening the chest you don't just get upgrading shards like in the vog, you get moldering shards that increase the amount of rewards you get from oryx the final boss (even though sometimes you only get 2...ik rng), you can also get antiquated runes from the chest. That alone makes the rewards gained better then from vog. The only thing I could see being better from Vog is the vex mythoclast you get from beating atheon (that i'll agree with you is better). 3). Are you serious? People failed the jumping puzzle a lot in vog which took 10 mins at times, which is why people figured out that you can just kick them and get to the next checkpoint then add the straggler back. There's no excuse now. 4). "you went straight into the fights no bullshit in between" The maze wasn't a fight (i loved doing it btw). So that's untrue. Btw without any puzzles or challenges just fights it would pretty stale. 5). "Vault took 14 hours to complete by the worlds first Kings fall took 7-8 for worlds first" I do not know why vog is much more clearer than king's fall. Either way that doesn't make vog better, and this is coming from someone that thought vog was the best raid before king's fall came out.
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  • Still doesn't change the fact that rewards drop at 20 different levels

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  • Lol tru that is getting annoying, especially when it keeps dropping at 310 (lowest light level in hard). I'm starting to feel like not doing the raid but that's mainly because some people apart of my team sucks.when. you have a great team and everything runs smoothy then that's when this raid is the best in my opinion.

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  • VOG is by far the best raid to date. All you did was restate what op said then change a few words. I have many completions on both raids and VOG was a better sound raid. It felt fuller the first time you did it and all the other times after. Minus the cheeses and all. But they learned from VOG, how to not have cheese spots for bosses.

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  • [b]"All you did was restate what op said then change a few words."[/b] lol wth are you talking about. You must not understand what i originally said if you think that, because even the op himself didn't claim i mimicked him. [b]"I have many completions on both raids and VOG was a better sound raid. It felt fuller the first time you did it and all the other times after."[/b] If that's your reasoning then that's a very poor one, it felt "fuller" really? It's like you're comparing vog to crota, king's fall had more parts than vog (so it [b]IS[/b] actually fuller than vog, that's a fact) it has 10 part's not to mention there's a challenge mode on the way. It also brought new elements into the game with a different way of dealing damage to the boss oryx himself which was pretty innovative, and there was an actual story (mission) that leads up to that confrontation. What was vog? A failed mission of an unknowable fireteam that was not introduced through the game? You just had to go do the raid because you heard your ghost say it once... yeah so much better. Look everyone has their own opinions you can have your favorites. There's nothing wrong with that, but let's not act like vog aspects were that much better than king's fall.. they weren't.

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