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9/20/2015 7:15:14 AM
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Anyone who was playing before TTK agreed to the EULA, and should have read it before agreeing. When you purchase a game (or any software for that matter) what you're actually buying is a license to use a copy of their software, within their set of rules, and they reserve the right to change and/or stop supporting older versions of the software or the software itself, at any time. Does it suck? Yep. Can you get angry over it? Sure can. Can you actually do anything about it? Nope.
Also it's common practice in the MMO world for players who don't upgrade to new expansions to get "left behind" to some extent or another, and while Destiny isn't a true MMO it shares enough similarities with the traditional genre for this kind of thing to be par for the course.
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I can log into WoW, not buy a new expansion and not be locked out of a thing from all previous releases. Mists is still 100% playable to those who didn't get Warlords. There's no reason that players without TTK shouldn't still be able to run a level 34 Nightfall that drops the same year one rewards as always. There's no reason Dragon Strikes shouldn't still exist for them. What Bungie did is cut access to push sales. Legal? Sure Ethical? Not so much.
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The EULA does not allow them to do absolutely anything. What if they shut off the game altogether and gave us a black screen? Do you think they could get away with that? No? Then how is it any different to remove substantial portions of content that we paid for? Agencies like the FTC exist to sue companies that mislead customers. And it is not common practice in the MMO world to remove old content when new content is released. If you buy a WoW expansion and another comes out, they don't remove all of the old activities to try to force you into upgrading.
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I did say left behind to some extent, and this is pretty extreme. I'm not saying it's not shitty, but it's also not surprising And they can shut down the servers anytime they want, it's their software. It would be a pretty big deal, and they would probably get sued but I don't think it would go anywhere. It also wouldn't happen unless a goo majority of the player-base went away, if hosting the servers is no longer profitable they'd shut it down, any reasonable company would. Failing and older games get their servers shut down all the time, and people may have paid full price or spent money via micro transactions on those games. Simple fact of the matter is, buying software doesn't make it "yours", it gives you legal access to use that software at the discretion of the owner(s) of that software.
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[quote]I did say left behind to some extent, and this is pretty extreme. I'm not saying it's not shitty, but it's also not surprising And they can shut down the servers anytime they want, it's their software. It would be a pretty big deal, and they would probably get sued but I don't think it would go anywhere. It also wouldn't happen unless a goo majority of the player-base went away, if hosting the servers is no longer profitable they'd shut it down, any reasonable company would. Failing and older games get their servers shut down all the time, and people may have paid full price or spent money via micro transactions on those games. Simple fact of the matter is, buying software doesn't make it "yours", it gives you legal access to use that software at the discretion of the owner(s) of that software.[/quote] Wrong An EULA is not a waiver of consumer rights. They can state what ever they want but if they brake any laws or mislead the consumer they can be -blam!-ed.
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Edited by Comptonburger: 9/20/2015 7:36:03 AMThey would absolutely get sued and absolutely have to give everybody refunds, no question about it. Edit: This game isn't older and failing, they have no excuse that they can't afford to run the servers.
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Yeah, it wouldn't be that cut and dry. The case would be in court for years, and the outcome wouldn't necessarily just come down to "The court orders you refund everyone who bought your game" . I've already seen people on the forums saying they filed complaints with the FCC over the locked out content, and if you really think the FCC has a good understanding of how this (or any) video game works and how the case should be handled, you're living in a fantasy world.
