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Edited by CrossSpec: 9/9/2015 6:40:15 PM
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NolanBot? Try, NothankyouBot!!

I desperately want to convey how I feel about Nolan North's translation of my Ghost in a mature, responsible, constructive manner so that you can take the communities, overwhelming, response and fix it. It is a challenge. You took something that was, AT WORST, a forgettable performance by Peter Dinklage. And turned it into something that is actively annoying, immensely frustrating and all-around disappointing. Whenever my Ghost tells me to do anything, I am abruptly removed from my, otherwise, immersive experience; and find myself feeling overwhelmingly irate at this prepubescent pop star with some strange Helium addiction, telling me what to do because he had some accidental run-in with a science book. Bitch? I'm the Mother-freaking Guardian who killed a GOD. I'm the only reason the universe still exists, as we know it. And I'm the one getting ready to take on the FATHER of the GOD I previously KILLED. And your balls haven't even dropped yet? YOU'RE my freaking sidekick? My omnipresent life-source of unimaginable power?? Is this a joke? In all honesty, I commend you for attempting to rectify a "narration continuity" problem for the sake of the game. But unfortunately you missed the mark, fairly heavily. Right now we are all just disappointed. Your response to our disappointment is what will determine our lasting impressions of Destiny. I also realize the immense undertaking it was to re-voice all the previous content and the new content. I see it and am sympathetic to it. In understanding all it takes to re-animate just one character in a massive game like Destiny, I can only think of two viable options.. Give me a mute button or give me death.

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  • Edited by Gamingking019: 9/11/2015 11:56:38 AM
    I played the sword of crota mission [quote]But be careful, its power is.... DARK[/quote] with extra cheesy voice

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  • The Nolan North voice is bloody awful, infinitely worse than the Dinkle, whose main problem was the awful script he had to work from

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    • Even my 10 yr old said its bad

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    • Nolan North as ghost = Fail.

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    • I completely agree. it seems I find myself cringing with each new discovery I find in the update. the ghost has been one of the worst. I NEED to be able to mute this POS. I cant even patrol anymore because it wont shut up. I would rather have no bot than Nolan. I don't care what it costs bungie needs to either just scrap it all or rehire dinklage to put things right

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      • Edited by Kone19ps: 9/9/2015 11:05:40 PM
        Nothing the ghost says carries any weight anymore. Knew from the trailer the voice was a train wreck. Good breakdown. I've been far less forgiving and cordial though I do have what I think is a good discussion about why the childish tone is a terrible choice below for a specific example To be edited in soon. I leave out the OP and his reply since I quoted it sorry if it's confusing You have a very different interpretation of the ghost. The ghosts chose us. We didn't chose them. They aren't supposed to be children we take care of. Us Guardians are the children being guided by our ghosts. Having it sound so childish and high pitched is annoying. I actually really liked dinklebot. The ghost is supposed to be smarter than me but still able to make mistakes because they are human like not because they are immature. That's why little light is an insult. Honestly not sure how you got mature male voice out of nolans performance he sounds like a teenager at oldest. Edit: long time opening doors is because they are difficult encryptions. Look at the phogoth strike he even says it's said to be impossible to crack [quote]Think more like the child star from the movie AI or the sixth sense. The AI can be smarter than us and still sound like a child in my opinion.[/quote] I know why this is a popular opinion but I don't like it. I prefer something like ultron. A mature human like machine that can make childish mistakes because it's like a human. It's more complex and interesting than just being beaten over the head with it by making it sound like a child. If you watched later red vs blue the AI fragments illustrate both viewpoints with York-delta and north dakota-theta. There is a big difference between human-like and child-like. I prefer human-like [quote]There are a lot of times the ghost seems inept during the missions. A perception of innocence and having trouble dealing with what is presented to the ghost, may be better received by the player if a child's voice was applied. People have more understanding for a kid trying their best than an advanced AI having issue with a door. It is more a psychological thing.[/quote] Well first I think everyone underestimates how easy it is to break an encryption. The ghost clearly comments on how difficult it is in both the Devils lair and phogoth strikes. So the it's just a door mentality isn't the games fault it's the player for assuming that's technically easy from years of movie and game cliches. The only time the ghost is actually inept that I remember off the top of my head is exclusion zone and the whole point of that would be lost by making it a childish voice. Then the rational would be oh my ghost is incompetent because it's childish rather than it was overconfident due to the culture of the cabal. It's not supposed to just be dismissed as a mistake from a flawed ghost. The cabal are militarized. Their system really is less complicated than DOS because its efficient and caters to a culture where instead of a technological failsafe the ghost could break their failsafe is literally any tampering alerts the legions. All that commentary on the cabal would be gone because it would just be dismissed as my ghost can make mistakes and not ask why it did. [quote] if this was a female voice, would that change the way you perceive the ghost?[/quote] That's hard to answer I don't think they could even use the same lines with a female voice. Men and women talk differently especially when it comes to sarcasm and wit that the ghost is fond of. To go even further without that realization of the cabal the ghost grimoire commenting on watching them would lose a lot a weight especially when considering the flayers, which "throw their minds around" like children.

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        • I agree MrSkibs, having a quick poll with some voice samples would have gone far into preventing this situation.

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        • I like it lol. It makes me laugh.

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          • When I hear my ghosts voice I half expect workout music to start playing. Then hear that voice telling me to "come on and work those thighs!" A reference to the old Richard Simmons sweatin to the oldies videos.

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            • Very well said i honestly dont like the new voice its not.....epic enough for how amazing this game is a mute button or being able to switch back to the other voice would be nice i recommend morgan freeman as the new ghost voice

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              • Here's my perspective: As we all know, Dinklebot has been removed because Bungie needed a voice actor who is more active like Nolan North. However, Dinklebot (Peter Dinklage) has done a fine job, his first voice acting in a video game. But Nolanbot, he's very cute to me. In my taste, robots should be half confused and half nerdish. They should have expression and personality. They can also be suspenseful and serious about things too. Nolanbot has met those tastes that I like very merely. <3 Dinklebot, he did a well job. He added in the serious, the suspense and more. So much that it was enjoyable at its best. I would say 50/50 on both Dinklebot and Nolanbot.

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                • Win! I was hoping for Desmond Miles.

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                • Get Morgan freeman to do it anyone else want him too say I

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                  • Edited by Guardian1761: 9/10/2015 1:02:26 PM
                    I felt the voice of the old ghost was more of a stern teacher like voice. To me it made sense. This ghost is part of this "god" and is able to imbue me with its powers. Not to mention all of the information it "seemed" to already have. This new voice is too....cartoonish for my taste and the overall mood in general. Had we had him out the gate maybe we all would be none the wiser, but comparing the two leaves many of us missing dinklebot.

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                  • He sounds super gay in this game. We wanted our bot to have life. Yes he's a robot but so are the robots that you choose as your character and they actually have life to them. You went from bad to worse. I think it's just the script though. Like he went in there and gave them the performance of a lifetime and they said. "That's good mr. North, but can you make it sound just a little bit shitter, like take all emotion out of it,. Yea that's great" wtf

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                  • Couldn't agree more and could not have expressed it better. All the criticism in this topic is on the mark. My guess is Peter Dinklage was too expensive. Well, in my opinion it was a horrible mistake by Bungie to replace him. It would be impossible to replace him in GoT, wouldn't it? Players are used to hearing his voice for a year now, and they replace him with another, not even remotely comparable voice. I hate it. If Bungie really listens to their community, they get Dinklage back asap, even if it costs a little more money. We've earned that...

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                  • I actually considered leveling through the "new" story missions when I finally make a hunter despite the free level 25 boost. Then I heard Nolanbot. Oh great and powerful Dinklage, forgive us. We have made a mistake. Seriously, if it's cringeworthy to hear some of the awful writing as told by Tyrion Lannister himself, I can't imagine how annoying those old missions and cutscenes will be with Nolan gabbing away with his semi-sociopathic neutrality.

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                    • Bring back the Dinkster! Nolan is far too cheery, no irony at all, all froth and enthusiasm, like having a manic Red Setter dog panting at your side wanting you to throw the ball again. He's a bit " hey watch out Guardian The Hellmouth is a bit dangerous, but shall we go anyway? Shall we go? Shall we, shall we? " They should have given the job to Jack Dee, now that would have been superb.

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                    • So funny story. My gf gets home from work and walks in the room as Im doing the hive mission for the gunsmiths stuff and first thing out of her mouth was holy shit is that c3po. I vote mute button Or someone with a voice that can deliver a punch. And let whoever make up there own lines. This guy is just bad.

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                    • Edited by HughGJohnson: 9/11/2015 8:09:34 AM
                      Yeah, I hate it. In most spots he's delivering it the same way (except they made him sound really weird). Why not keep Dinklage if they're just gunna have someone deliver it the same way -- or worse in some instances.

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                    • Bungie need start again on that voice its gone from average to annoying cringe every time I hear it, please give us a mute option.

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                    • Who is this nasally whining junior high child yelling at me through my tv?!?

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                    • I know what you mean... Nolan consistently sounds like a huge pu$sy in the dub over.... Kinda sounds like he's a kindergarten teacher preaching to the youth... kinda disappointed but I'm sure it'll grow on everyone.

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