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Edited by Aether Seraph:
8/26/2015 9:28:01 PM
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Your argument is invalid because you are simply here defending exotic hand cannons.
What those guns bring to the table is far and away more than what the messenger does.
Anyway, the only justification for messenger/ hopscotch is the state of the meta and how it is DOMINATED by those handcannons. It is absolutely broken in those situations where its strengths can be applied to thier fullest. TTK of less than two seconds isnt justifiable on primary weapons. Not because its not fun to use, but because its very not fun to have used against you.
You might like to imagine that it is your skill and not the gun. The fantasy of that is attractive... But if it were true then those players wouldn't clearly gravitate towards using them... Hell all players wouldn't. It's flat out easier to get kills with those guns, another gun being equally broken doesn't change or justify that.
It's all a sad story for me... Because I have had a chance to get into fire fights with legendary hand canon users while using them. It's a [b]GREAT[/b] meta... The dance is great, pacing perfect, and leaves you smiling when you lose. Because you know that you made a mistake. Against Thorn or TLW (xbox) you NEVER smile... in fact even after months of the meta I still stop and say that shit is broken... Every single time.
If the nerf for handcannons for a whole is what brings those exotic ones in line then it looks like it will RUIN the rest of them... Which is beyond retarded because they are perfect as is...
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Edited by Adam: 8/27/2015 1:48:38 AMI'm not defending exotic Hand Cannons. Hell, I'm as happy as anyone that they're being balanced. What I am pointing out though, is that good players are good players period. We saw it in the Suros Meta, this Hand Cannon Meta, and we'll see it again in the incoming Pulse Rifle meta...... But if someone uses a top tier gun, the community labels them as scrubs using crutches... Which is a mile away from the truth. When I play competitive scrims against other skilled players, EVERYONE uses either Thorn or TLW. So is it a crutch then? No. The most skillful players shine. Just like they always will, regardless of what they are using. But hey, if people want to talk about crutches, then I think the shotguns should be at the forefront of the discussion. Those things are broken as Hell, especially when combined with blink.... [b]The Crucible is so over-run with Blink shotgunners that people like me who just want to snipe have to run with TLW just to stand a chance against the suicidal blink shotgunners that will rush you in any situation. If I happen to do well, I get called a scrub using a crutch... Usually by the players running laser beam Pulse Rifles and blink-shotgunning.... Now tell me, where is the logic in that?[/b] (Sorry for the length of the response)
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Totally agree with you about the gun fight dance, atm there is none almost.
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There is so much more to be said about this its silly... I'm seriously considering. Taking a new post on the subject of handcannons... For more than this reason
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I advice you not to, first you will get hate from the salty thorn /TLW abusers, 2nd I doubt bungie will listen since they nerfed all auto rifles in order to nerf Suros before, even Hawkmoon gonna get nerfed for no reason Cuz of other exotic hcs.
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I would be covering handcannons as a whole... Not just the exotic ones. There's a distinct set of archetypes that exist within the stat ranges of hand canons.
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Well to be fair they are exotic for a reason and for a legendary to be as effective despite exotic perks is reason enough to stop complaining as much as you can use these powerful weapons in combination with other powerful exotics just my opinion
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Two second TTK is a looooong time
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Halo BRS... Enough said
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This isnt halo....
