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8/21/2015 8:30:12 PM
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Sols original posts were always well written, but his responses to those who disagreed with him were always really rude. He deserved his ban.
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  • There were rude people replying to the posts too, in fact, the most knuckleheaded,disrespectful people were the ones who disagreed with him.

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  • I am aware, but that's still not a justification. "Hey! I shouldn't go to prison for murder! OJ Simpson got away with it! It's not fair!" If you do something wrong, prepare for the consequences. They won't catch you every time, but when they do and you get banned, you deserve it. Play nice, guys. Don't feed the trolls.

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  • Not true, only time I ever saw him make a "rude" comment was when someone was blatantly offensive toward him, not just simply disagreeing, and even then it took some additional prodding

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  • Edited by x813 Kris Rollzz: 8/21/2015 10:32:31 PM
    If it wasn't true, would he be banned? C'mon man, those Ninjas aren't Bungje employees

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  • No no I'm sure he broke the code and the ban was justified, even he has stated he crossed the line, I was referring to posts he's made previously. As far as this one goes though, apparently these guys escalated the argument and....well you see the result

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  • Oh yea I'm sure they did, man.. Trolls will go very far because the internet hides their identity. But as a famous champion once said: "Do not become a monster to defeat one." Sols was always well written in his main posts, and I'm sure he's a good guy, and just like any other human, when pushed, you can sometimes react in a very rude way. But that's where self control comes in. That's why the mute function exists. We can't just do an eye for an eye, because, well... You know the saying lol.

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  • How wude(rude). Is that the Olsen Twins Ban?

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  • Ask the Ninjas, not me ^.^

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  • So anyone who was rude to a reply should be banned then?

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  • Straw man. I'm not generalizing anything, so don't assume I am. In the case of LostSols, he obviously was rude enough to get himself banned.

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  • Compared to the hundreds of posts, like the ones I described above, that are still up?

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  • Why don't you read this? A ninja himself wrote this in the "I've Lost Sols! Can anyone find him?" post [quote][quote]Bungie you filth he was fending himself you shits. And you little ninja ass -blam!-s you deserve to commit suicide you shits.[/quote] [b]Pre-disclaimer: [/b][spoiler] In case the reader is unaware, the Ninja and the Mentors are not Bungie employees. We are not Bungie spokespersons, we do not speak on behalf of Bungie, we do not work for Bungie, we are fellow members of this site and people who, just like you, play and have our own opinions on the games that Bungie makes.[/spoiler] Here's my take, and [b]only post[/b] on this matter. See that above? It doesn't bother ME in the slightest. I see hundreds of "Bungie you are shit" and "Ninjas, you should kill yourselves" in the report queue nearly every day and I don't ban for those. IMO, Bungie are big boys and girls, and can take their fair share of Internet abuse and rudeness. Same for me and my fellow ninja. Call out either group, vent your spleen, throw shit and honestly? I'm fine with it. Now, on the other hand. If I see comments like that in the queue and they are from one member and are directed at another? Then the person throwing is getting a time out. I don't care who they are, and no one is a "special case". It's one thing to insult our hosts, or to give the middle finger at general authority here, that sort of crap comes with the territory. But the one thing that we ALL agreed on when EACH of us joined, was that we would not insult, abuse or attack each other. So, if I see it in the report queue, I am not looking to see who said it, I am looking at what they said. No one can MAKE you put something offensive or rule-violating to the right of your avatar. There is no "returning fire" on the forums. There is no "defending yourself when someone has insulted you". And the line of "I see it everywhere and it goes unaddressed, so I decided to do it too and expect no consequences either". All of those are false arguments, rationalization and an attempt to excuse poor interaction with your fellow community members. And there certainly isn't a "special class" that deserves or gets "special treatment". And as far as the comments regarding "others are free to call people fags, wish their mother would have aborted them and a lot more." (to quote Cooper), I will and ALWAYS act when I see those things. I see those things by chance as I scroll through the forums, and I make them disappear. But I don't and I CAN'T see them all. The #Destiny forum alone will have 10+ pages , 25 threads per page, each with posts less than 5 minutes old. There is no possible way for me, or any small group of individuals to read all of the content posted by the members of this site. Do you know who CAN? The members. If you've seen interactions that you know are unacceptable, people insulting others, using slurs, calling names, being abusive, hateful or downright assholes? Don't shake your head and let that shit go as "a sign that this site sucks". Click on the report button PLEASE! Because those reports make it to me and my colleagues. We evaluate the post, and if the report was accurate, we ban the offender. Because YOU took the time to point them out. And whoever is already doing that? Thank you. Really. I honestly and sincerely thank you. If I could buy you all a beverage, I would. Finally, as to the cause, length and other details of another members ban? That's between the banned member and the hosts of this site. Unbans are rare, infrequent, and most members simply wait out their ban and don't repeat the steps that lead to it. I don't know, don't need to know, and don't want to know the details of this latest Internet drama. I did want to share my perspective and set straight some of the mistakes and assumptions being made in this thread. Maybe I did, maybe I didn't. That is something that is up to the people who took the time to read this. And those of you who did? Thanks for reading.[/quote]

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  • I did read it, and I still find it funny that the ban hammer was dropped on him so quickly.

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  • He must've said some pretty mean stuff then. Like everyone said, Sols had some good things to say. But in the posts that were replies that not everybody would read, he was bad enough to get himself banned.

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  • There are a handful of Ninjas compared to hundreds upon hundreds of posts every MINUTE. They are not employees by Bungie to do this so they do not sit on here reading every post for every second of their life, and possibly have other jobs for themselves outside of this forum. Taking that math into consideration, there are probably a shit ton of conduct breaking posts that slip through their watch. Most ninja post I've read have said this themselves and that they rely on people reporting posts to catch the ones they don't see themselves. Report a post, and then its bookmarked for them to judge if it broke conduct. Attacking them because they got one post and not another is like saying a police officer 40 miles away from a house that was burglarized is at fault because he didn't catch it.

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  • Edited by x813 Kris Rollzz: 8/21/2015 10:33:31 PM
    Blame the Ninjas, man. They can't get to them all, but the ones they do get to, deserve it (the ban).

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