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Edited by Lion El'Jonson: 8/23/2015 7:52:41 AM
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#FreeSols

Today our greatest voice was silenced; LostSols was forum banned today for defending himself against a pair of spiteful trolls. The exact content that got him banned is unknown, although I sincerely doubt it was above the level we commonly see here. Knowing the way Sols posts, even against those trolling, this ban comes as a shock to myself and many others. The thoughtful, well constructed and brutally honest posts he regularly treats us to, I believe, has made him Undesirable No.1 to Bungie. I'm certain his "offense" was minor but Bungie jumped at the chance to ban him ahead of the weekly update. Bungie doesn't like people like LostSols as he represents what they fear most, a [i]smart[/i] consumer. Someone who won't swallow the shit they try to feed to him, who won't be spun, someone who isn't so blinded by Halo nostalgia that he'll "Throw money at the screen". He is a free thinker and shows people it's ok to be, especially here where fanboys can be overwhelming. To ban LostSols while people who call others fags, who tell others their mothers wish they would have aborted them, people who spew sexism and racist hate run free is un-f.ucking-acceptable! You at Bungie are cowards at best and criminals at worst. You silenced his voice temporarily, but his voice is the clearest and loudest of all here and will still be heard through us in his absence. I speak for many here when I say The voice of the community must be reinstated immediately! #FreeSols *Update* Look everyone, marketing team member Cozmo replied. Now since ninjas [i]aren't[/i] Bunghole employees, doesn't that mean that an actual employee (Cozmo) would have the authority to overturn this ludicrous ban? *Update* "Post awaiting ninja justice"?! What did I do this time!? This is the second thread of mine you've done this to. This is a flaming bag of hog shit Bungie and you [i]will not[/i] silence or intimidate me! Unlock the thread.
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    I like Sols, he writes insightful feedback. But anyone breaking the Code of Conduct can be banned. "He started it" is no defense. If someone is calling you names, hit the report button and back away. Our Ninjas work hard to keep this place clean, but there is a ton of traffic and they can't always see everything. If you see someone hurling insults at another member, or doing anything that breaks the Code Of Conduct hit the report button to ensure Ninja justice is dealt. Remember to be excellent to each other and keep it clean.

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    • Edited by DrtyNstyLeg: 8/21/2015 11:04:53 PM
      One of the people you call a troll has been banned. So please stop with all the crazy talk. You same people that think bungie was out to get Sols are the same people thinking others are trolls.

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      • #permabansols

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      • Here's a direct quote from a Ninja. [quote][quote]Bungie you filth he was fending himself you shits. And you little ninja ass -blam!-s you deserve to commit suicide you shits.[/quote] [b]Pre-disclaimer: [/b][spoiler] In case the reader is unaware, the Ninja and the Mentors are not Bungie employees. We are not Bungie spokespersons, we do not speak on behalf of Bungie, we do not work for Bungie, we are fellow members of this site and people who, just like you, play and have our own opinions on the games that Bungie makes.[/spoiler] Here's my take, and [b]only post[/b] on this matter. See that above? It doesn't bother ME in the slightest. I see hundreds of "Bungie you are shit" and "Ninjas, you should kill yourselves" in the report queue nearly every day and I don't ban for those. IMO, Bungie are big boys and girls, and can take their fair share of Internet abuse and rudeness. Same for me and my fellow ninja. Call out either group, vent your spleen, throw shit and honestly? I'm fine with it. Now, on the other hand. If I see comments like that in the queue and they are from one member and are directed at another? Then the person throwing is getting a time out. I don't care who they are, and no one is a "special case". It's one thing to insult our hosts, or to give the middle finger at general authority here, that sort of crap comes with the territory. But the one thing that we ALL agreed on when EACH of us joined, was that we would not insult, abuse or attack each other. So, if I see it in the report queue, I am not looking to see who said it, I am looking at what they said. No one can MAKE you put something offensive or rule-violating to the right of your avatar. There is no "returning fire" on the forums. There is no "defending yourself when someone has insulted you". And the line of "I see it everywhere and it goes unaddressed, so I decided to do it too and expect no consequences either". All of those are false arguments, rationalization and an attempt to excuse poor interaction with your fellow community members. And there certainly isn't a "special class" that deserves or gets "special treatment". And as far as the comments regarding "others are free to call people fags, wish their mother would have aborted them and a lot more." (to quote Cooper), I will and ALWAYS act when I see those things. I see those things by chance as I scroll through the forums, and I make them disappear. But I don't and I CAN'T see them all. The #Destiny forum alone will have 10+ pages , 25 threads per page, each with posts less than 5 minutes old. There is no possible way for me, or any small group of individuals to read all of the content posted by the members of this site. Do you know who CAN? The members. If you've seen interactions that you know are unacceptable, people insulting others, using slurs, calling names, being abusive, hateful or downright assholes? Don't shake your head and let that shit go as "a sign that this site sucks". Click on the report button PLEASE! Because those reports make it to me and my colleagues. We evaluate the post, and if the report was accurate, we ban the offender. Because YOU took the time to point them out. And whoever is already doing that? Thank you. Really. I honestly and sincerely thank you. If I could buy you all a beverage, I would. Finally, as to the cause, length and other details of another members ban? That's between the banned member and the hosts of this site. Unbans are rare, infrequent, and most members simply wait out their ban and don't repeat the steps that lead to it. I don't know, don't need to know, and don't want to know the details of this latest Internet drama. I did want to share my perspective and set straight some of the mistakes and assumptions being made in this thread. Maybe I did, maybe I didn't. That is something that is up to the people who took the time to read this. And those of you who did? Thanks for reading.[/quote]

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        • I think he's been freed. I've seen him post something about: "What would you want answered from DeeJ in the Bungie Weekly Update 8/27/15?"

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          • Freesols

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            • Threads get locked when they get reported by too many people until a Ninja can look at them. It isn't Bungie trying to block you, it's the community that is. The same works for bans. If I call someone unpleasant things on a thread that no one sees, I probably won't get reported. If a more well known person says something unpleasant on a trending topic, it going to get seen, and reported, by alot of people.

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              • Edited by Halcyon: 8/24/2015 6:08:55 AM
                It was because of some troll called DrtyNstyLeg who ticked him off. I thought Sols was smarter than that though lol. Letting some bastard tick him off like that? The douche bag was literally posting on every single one of his posts lol. What a creep! Needless to say, Bungie states that violated their "[i]Code of Conduct[/i] by called the bastard names. As if that crap doesn't happen in literally every post that shows up in these forums. I call bullshit Bungie and you know it.

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              • No thank you we need less complaints that are 5 paragraphs long

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                • Hi. He broke the rules. He is held to the same standards we are. Quit being a baby.

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                  • I like sols too, but he failed to be clean. "Piss my mouth" posts and swearing in posts was a wrong move. I understand that he might get frustrated against trolls, but breaking the code of conduct means that you will get banned, no matter how popular the person is. In my opinion, Lost Sols did the wrong thing. He certainly overreacted.

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                    • Code of Conduct applies to everyone, even the most critical of us.

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                    • Sols original posts were always well written, but his responses to those who disagreed with him were always really rude. He deserved his ban.

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                      • Hey mommy! Tommy called me nammmesssss! (While she fcks Activision) Just report him! Idk! Call your keyboard warriors!

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                        • I'm sick of hearing about this guy. He f*cked up. There is no conspiracy. Stop making one. He did something stupid. You should all put on your big-boy pants and stop posting boring shit like this. Make your own little group, call it the LostSols Fanboy Circlejerk and talk about it in there.

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                          • Edited by StrictlyTy: 8/21/2015 3:09:51 PM
                            Okay. Here's the thing. Although he is without a doubt one the most articulate critics here on the forums, he doesn't get special treatment if he breaks the code of conduct. I asked him and about it and he admitted that he went too far when retaliating against people. Just because they may have started or provoked him, doesn't mean that gives him immunity if he decides to respond back. I'm also quite disappointed in this #FreeSols tag that has spawned because of his recent ban. Knowing that he's aware he was in the wrong, and also knowing he's a firm supporter of the CoC , and in specific areas, I don't think it's right to suggest that because he has such a large influence in the forums he gains a benefit that others do not receive. What I was hoping to see was other users fill in the hole while he's MIA. He's still reading the posts. I think he would be more happy if players continued and added in more well thought out threads that were openly critical of the game, because he, as well as many users have shown that articulate posting has more of an influence than posts out of emotion, which is what these #FreeSols threads are. Those are the posts that Bungie takes the time to read, not these.

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                            • -Casey Watch yourself. You probably already know this, but YOU are almost as strong of a voice as Sols was. With Sols gone, YOU ARE ONE OF THE STRONGEST VOICES ON FEEDBACK. So beware, Forum Ninjackasses will be out to find a reason so silence you too. Be careful what you say, and become as mighty a forum leader as Sols was. -A random player

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                              • Edited by Havok: 8/22/2015 9:00:48 PM
                                Who is he? He's banned from the forums, not dead. Jeez, your post reads like an obituary lol.

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                                • #-blam!- sols Never heard of him

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                                  • Edited by Andalite: 8/24/2015 12:16:49 PM
                                    https://www.bungie.net/en/Forum/Post/148295040/0/0/1 https://www.bungie.net/en/Forum/Post/148520217/0/0/1 If this thread was really "awaiting Ninja justice", then you wouldn't be able to edit it. But I'm sure that won't matter to the Sols cult

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                                    • He clearly did something offensive, that's all there is to this.

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                                    • I'm sure i am right in saying that lost sols was set up, he bit at the bait and was reported by those who set him up, . anyway I am sure it wont be long until he is back and doing his thing on forum once again.

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