Nope. Only thing that is better than thorn is the last word. Simple as that.
Just to fix your lies, red death has NO range. Damage fall off is a bitch with it.
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Exactly why I'll use my 3 little words over red death any day. Range is insane on 3lw.
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Thorn deff has the red death on range(which is bs considering pistol vs rifle). Let's just say the red death does hit farther for s's & g's, thorn only has to poke his head out and tag you 3 times and dot will do the rest...you don't have to connect 2 full bursts(6 bullets) to the head to kill as you would red death. Thorn is for bad kids that need a crutch.
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Um,I'm comparing red death side to side with thorn,and red death has better range:/
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[quote]Um,I'm comparing red death side to side with thorn,and red death has better range:/[/quote] Have you even used that weapon? Holy shit you are delusional. Lets take blind watch for example. If you are sitting top middle where special ammo box spawns, you cant even shoot to the right side of the ring 2 (where old special ammo box used to spawn where snipers like to camp) without getting major damage fall off. I can shoot there without any damage fall off with praedyths timepiece. Same with the thorn. Please dont make these kind of posts since you are clueless. (Hopefully you understood that blind watch example. Kinda hard to explain it)
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Thorn has send it Base stats red death has more range but since red death doesn't have that range boosting perk :/
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Red death has less range even without send it. Have you ever used red death? Anyone who has knows that gun has no range. It operates best in the same range where last word is the unrivaled king and in long range fights, thorn stomps on it. It may have range in paper but not in reality.
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I've never really looked at the exact stats. If you check my thorn and red death grimoire you'll see I've used both around the same
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Oh.I don't put send it on my thorn.I put the stability perk
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You still can't deny red death has a better range stat than thorn.Recoil is a different story
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[quote]You still can't deny red death has a better range stat than thorn.Recoil is a different story[/quote] Did you not understand what I just typed or are you retarted. It has nothing to do how much red deaths range stat has range. In reality, that gun has no range. Simple as that. USE THE WEAPONS FIRST before making retarted posts.
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K.Let me point something out.I didn't bother to read it because you started out with an insult which just shows your immaturity.If you expect me to read it act like you're not 5.Red Death,while not as fast a killer as thorn,does have a couple perks that can allow you to beat it. 1.When you get shot by red death,it's like having 3 bullets land on you at once.It makes you flinch like crazy.This can make it almost impossible to land headshots with thorn if you can't even aim 2.You can strafe better with red death than you can thorn.I would assume you know nothing about strafing,but it's almost impossible with precision hand cannons.Since red death is a pulse rifle,you can fire your shots then strafe. How are you going to land kills if you're flinching and I'm moving everywhere?Youre not going to
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You forgot one thing buddy. Not everyone has problems getting headshots. Some of us can aim at the head. Clearly, you have no knowledge about these weapons and to top it, you are a horrible PvP player. Do you know how I know it even when you hid your account? Because you clearly know nothing about these weapons. Like I said already. If you think you can beat my thorn or last word with a b class weapon like red death, lets set up a match/matches. Or can you just make up lies?
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The last word is mythoclast level. A GREAT top tier weapon, but worst than both Thorn and Red Death.
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[quote]The last word is mythoclast level. A GREAT top tier weapon, but worst than both Thorn and Red Death.[/quote] Another who knows nothing. There are only two god tier weapons. Thorn and last word. People has different opinions which is better but in my opinion its the last word. Red death and vex are both b+ class weapons. Praedyths timepiece and mida outclasses both those weapons. If you think anything can compete against thorn and last word, you are one of these: A) clueless B) delusional C) idiot D) all the above If you still think you can keep up with garbage weapons such as those, lets set up skirmish matches. I can show you just how inferior everything else is compared to thorn and last word.
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Red Death's range isn't as good as Thorn's, but it's good enough to get around Destiny maps, which are all fairly CQC unless you play combined arms. And it's definitely better than Last Word's range. The RoF and kill time on the last word is great, but so is the Red Death's two shot kill. As far as your kd and skirmish and such, good for you. It's much higher than mine. Just because you're a good player with lots of kills doesn't make your weapon best. I'd win FFA games in Halo 4 using just a plasma pistol. Doesn't make it better than the BR.
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Have you even used the last word or red death? If you have, you know that red death has more range on paper BUT in reality last word has more range. I have used and tested both weapons so I know the truth. Try doing the same.
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I used The Last Word primarily until the last weapon update, when I switched to Red Death. The last two weeks, I've been using the Fulcrum just because I have more fun with it. The Last Word is a powerhouse, no doubt. It can shoot far, and accurately. But it's RoF drops off when you need to shoot at range, due to picking your shots more. That makes it less effective at range. Red Death can still shoot at its full RoF where the Last Word can't. Not to mention with how popular thorn is now, you'll survive the thorn poison with a kill, unless the lag registers the thorn shot AFTER you get your kill.
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1.Last word has no range at all.(Get cross mapped with MIDA). 2.Thorn is horrible at close(Get shotgunned or Red Death)
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Edited by x Mr Finland x: 6/7/2015 7:35:31 PM[quote]1.Last word has no range at all.(Get cross mapped with MIDA). 2.Thorn is horrible at close(Get shotgunned or Red Death)[/quote] I dont really know what else to say. Even a monkey would have understood it by now. Gotta say Im always amazed by the retardation some people has here. Read all of it once more and maybe you can learn something. Muted.
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Again where is your valid argument?You just keep adding insults to your posts thinking your badass.You sure are mature kid.You sound like you're 10
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Lmao ^ so true
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Ok I'm done with you.According to planet destiny,there are 4 exotic tier crucible weapons.If you are now making fallacy about tiers,then don't start an argument.Your argument is invalid
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[quote]Ok I'm done with you.According to planet destiny,there are 4 exotic tier crucible weapons.If you are now making fallacy about tiers,then don't start an argument.Your argument is invalid[/quote] Hahhahahhah oh my. Please take your pills man. You are getting out of control.
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You just made up tiers.Show some actual evidence on how my previous statement is wrong or just accept defeat