See, this is where the community is sorely wrong. ToO is for upper echelon PvP players, same as raids were for PvE players. Now, the community thinks that they should just expect to go flawless and reach the lighthouse every weekend cause its there. Frankly, I see no issue with Deejs statement. If your not able to win against moderate to good players, you shouldn't go to the lighthouse. And good competitive players keep playing because the games are fun. Now, I'm nit an amazing PvP person in destiny, but I can go flawless. Hate to be so harsh, but yeah. Same as when the PvP guys were upset that they had to do raids to get better gear and couldn't cause they were out of their comfort zone. Same applies here. You should only be able to get to the lighthouse, if your good enough to get there. Shouldn't be an easy riding lane to get there. PS: Lighthouse really isn't that big a deal. Exotic shader and a primary with elemental damage. Which for the guns, every player should already have elemental primaries by now. If not, your doing it wrong.