Actually I'd call this a "tantrum" rather than feedback.
Feedback is actually somethign that the developers can use to IMPROVE THE game. Not just a laundry list fo complaints.
All MMOs go through this in their first year...and the fact that Bungie had NO experience with this type of game before diving in----and doing as well as they have---is pretty impressive.
But at the end of the day, NO game is for everyone. If you like it....deal with it while Bungie hammers out the dents and works out the kinks.
If you don't. Stop pissing in the punchbowl and go play a game you DO like.
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This statement you make is only proven false because bungie refuses to listen to any actual feedback. I have seen dozen upon dozens of well formed posts explaining everything that is wrong and how to fix them in both small an large ways. I've been here since the alpha. Wanna know something? Nothing changed. Sure they moved some small things around, changed out a bit of perks an icons, but the game itself never evolved from the alpha. Areas are still locked in patrol, despite having them open in missions. Example: Kings watch, Jonas complex, Seraphim Vault. This is still a beta game at its core, it's just stockpiled full of items to bury that core. Nothing about Destiny fits together, the story is all over the place, the dlc adds even less to the story or more to the point creates side stories that relate nothing back to the main and they still arnt pieced together into something relatable to a fledged story. Example: We break Crotas sword yet he still has it or just multiples, so what's the point? We kill Crota before the raid yet alive he is in his make believe world. Why the duck do I even listen to Eris mourn in the first place? I'm ducking aware of the hive presence, actually I found them locked up in the skywatch area before you even knew me. The list goes on an on an on, this isn't new complaints these are old things that have been going on since day one. The only reason for complaints to last this long is for them to [i]never[/i] be addressed. Now before you make up whatever reply it is you have, just remember this isn't a argument or something such, these are just day one facts lasting the entirety of this games life this far.
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1. You can listen to someone, and not have to agree with them. 2. You can listen to someone, and not have to act in accordance with their wishes. Do not----ever----confuse "being heard" with being ACCOMODATED. They are not the same. Bungie is not a passive number here. They have their own ideas as to what kind of game they wish to make....and they own NEEDS in terms of generating revenue, meeting expenses, and maximizing the profitabiity of this game that they have spent many years and endured a lot of hardship and risk to produce. Speak your piece, yes. But being "heard" by Bungie does not mean they have to do what you wish. In fact many things in the OP "wish list" are contradictory and mutually exclusive. Which is why I called it a tantrum. So at the end of the day...you're "power" doesn't lay in trying to compel Bungie to acceed to your demands. Your power lay in CHOOSING what you will do. Will you hang around while Bungie climbs its RPG learning curve.....making and learning from its mistakes? Or do you just decide that its not worth your time, and you need to move on to a game that meeds your needs better. That's your power, here. Or as my father used to say, " [i] Don't ever complain....and then STAY. [/i]" Because at that point you have surrendered YOUR power, and you are little more than a nag and a nudge.
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Learning from there mistakes????? This is a major gameing developer. This isn't there first game. Bungie is no longer what they were. And Destiny is a crap release by any developer. I have many many 360 and xbox games. Destiny is the worst misleading hype I have ever experienced. I did not get the DLC I ordered it midnight release but the DLC appears as a credit to my Microsoft account. I chose to keep the credit in the account. I wish all DLC was a credit to your account and you could choose at a later date when the DLC is released weather you want it or not. I chose not after experiencing this crap game. And boy was I am a bunch of friends hyped for this release....
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1. It is no their first game. IT IS their first [i] role-playing game.[/i] 2. Destiny isn't a "crap" game. It is a HYBRID between MMO-RPGs and FPS. Not everyone is going to like such combinations. That's why we have choices in the marketplace...and menus at resturantes. If you don't like the food....don't eat there. Don't stand out on the sidewalk and complain. LIkewise if you don't like Destiny....just don' play it. Don't come on line and throw 30-point tantrums. People start to question either your maturity or your sanity. 3. If you don't like how Destiny was marketed, take that up with Activision. That was their job.
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The issue is that this game neither lays in rpg or mmo anymore. If it did the pve content would be higher quality and much more in quantity. They are tending to the shooter aspects of this game, which has become most of the game at this point. As for learning from the mistakes they have made... That's not even something they attempt. Clearly shown by how they never fixed any raid glitches to completion, the terrible nerf to auto rifles, how last word still clearly doesn't lack from any range to known a issue with it. They arnt learning they make us do the testing and then either leave it alone or remove it completely. Clear example: Why get rid of the sword of Crota spawns in patrol? Both those and the wolves would have been fine and more content. Eris still has the bounty for them but forces you to replay the one mission over an over for those kills. As for being heard vs accommodated, in a business environment you don't just hear what people say and then tell them to baisically go screw them self I run this how I want. That's a bad business practice and just one hell of a terrible idea. This isn't even an accommodation issue it's just the clearly "we don't give a shite" attitude they have towards a broad base of there customers. Why have a feedback forum if you never listen in the first place? Now I'm not pointing out what you said as wrong because you do make valid points. A lot of the complaints people make are on the down slope of just angery tangents to not so well formed idoitcy, they most of all need to learn the choice of leaving or not. However the people who care about bungie and want them to make this a success are treated just as bad for making clear cut statements and ideas on what's wrong and how to fix it. With response from Deej that border line trolling or just vague enough that he shouldn't have answered. That's frustrating to anyone. Bungie has a handful of problems, mostly this idea of dlc installs and then not putting in the content needed to keep interest. Most people don't play to play the game they play for the friends they have. This game, at the rate it is at will die through the summer most likely. Not cause of another game like people always predict but because were no longer waiting for a dlc already paid for, life most often blooms and distracts during summer, most of us are not planning on paying another dlc untill a well documented review is made of it.
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Bottomline. Bungle has a clear vision of the game they wish to make. Bungie has been willing to TWEAK that vision to accomodate a largely mmo/rpg fan-base, as opposed to the shooter fans they were initially expecting. Beyond that, Bungie has made it clear that they are going to stick to their vision. Either that vision works for you....or it doesn't. if it doesn't----like it cleraly doesn't for the OP----then it is time to move on.
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Well spoken.