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Discuss all things Destiny.
Edited by D3ADLY V3GAS: 5/4/2015 10:43:55 AM
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Twitch reveals, HoW changes, obligatory Gally mention, and my take on Destiny's future...

Let me preface this post by saying I never intended to "leave" Destiny. I paid for my season pass, I am sad there will not be a raid, however I am interested to see this new take on "end-game" content. I had always planned to pick Destiny back up when HoW was released, but only because I had paid for the content already. I haven't played since mid march, after playing daily since release. I have full raid gear for both raids with all 3 classes, along with every exotic. I did my best to help anyone I could both with cheese and vanilla playthroughs, so I do not consider myself an "elitist" 32. Now that I have stated my position, hopefully I will mitigate some of the knee-jerk negative responses. As details of HoW were slowly leaked out, as well as official release info, I grew more and more disappointed. •No raid? That was what kept me coming back every Tuesday, trying to get all of the weapons and armor, maximizing each piece of gear and keeping all of them for every situation imaginable. Prison of Elders seemed akin to firefight/zombies/survival/horde mode to the point of frustration, however the twitch reveals have given me new hope. •The constant nerf and buff of different weapon types was unwelcome, but not game breaking. Forcing me to change the way I play is frustrating, insofar as players have "perfected" ways of playing, habits and patterns that will help them win. Then "big brother" comes in and changes all of the rules. It's annoying, but not enough to make me put down a game I spent almost 90 bucks on, and hundreds of hours of gameplay. •Crucible has never been my main focus for Destiny, I find PvE to be far more enjoyable than PvP. I'll get as frustrated as anyone when I get tagged by a felwinter or a morgue from what feels like sniper distance, however, I do not play crucible apart from exotic bounties and iron banner so I allow that much to fall to lack of experience...(though my fusion rifle spray has gotten noticeably wider than I would like...haha) the changes to crucible seem justified from an outside perspective, so I cannot comment too much on them. Trials of Osiris will probably change all this for me, as of now that seems to be my new end-game goal. No matchmaking will be frustrating, as I have built my friends in game around a PvE based experience...but LFG has also taken on its own life through this game. •What makes me the most frustrated, and will probably keep me from this game again not too long after HoW releases, is the toxic nature this community has adopted. Almost every post on the forums relates to illegitimate complaining, entitlement due to meager playtimes, or belittling a portion of the community due to a different playstyle/RNG luck. I remember the old bnet forums that were overflowing with support, whether it be forming a team for a player hosted zombies/tower of power/glitching party, or simple playthrough assistance, you didn't have to look far to find helpful, supportive people. I wish that for these forums, and though this community is much larger, with a far greater division of players, I hope than can be our future. •[b]TLDR[/b] Bungie has worked to heed our every request, however this is a massive structure, that is running 24/7, across the globe. Even when these changes do come, not everyone can be pleased. Not everyone wants the same game. If we spent the same time working together to find a way to adjust our gameplay, as opposed to villifying Deej (who, BTW is not doing the programming, who is not the only set of eyes reading these forums/tweets, who is not implimenting changes that are decided by another group aside from Deej) imagine the progress this game could make. These twitch reveals have gotten me excited all over again about playing destiny, the multiple ways to max level, the different armor, the new take on endgame content, the upgrade paths for old weapons (365 FATEBRINGER!!!!). I am excited again, and this community is making it hard for me to feel that way. [b]EDIT: So far in the comments...I'm finding that these forums don't seem to be the main "community," which makes me happy. I've only loosely dealt with Twitch/YouTube/Reddit portions of this community. I had previously thought them to be smaller, goal specific portions of the players. I'm happy to say I'm being shown that is where the good community resides. [/b]

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  • No gaming community will ever be toxic free, there will always be those that disagree with how something is being done or why. And no amount of moderation can ever stop it either. No company can ever keep all players happy all the time, nor will they ever try to either. For it is a loosing battle that cannot ever be won and most smart companies understand this. So changes will happen and some will like and others will not and they are not going to get worried about those that threaten to leave because of it ever. So the fact you let what is said here be your driving force toward the game or against it is just stupid really. You play for your own self and not care what others cry about and just adapt as the changes come for they will always come. The game will not ever stay the same forever no matter how many players think it should. It cannot nor should not ever do so. Coming here and crying about how the community is and because of it that certain changes were made or not made is stupid for it will not change the community ever, they don't care if you are happy and never will nor ever have too. You make do with what you can and adapt or otherwise just ignore everyone here and not take anything said here serious ever. Toward the content it will always change, never believe leaked information ever. If you do and get your hopes up because of it only to be disappointed later when was not what was leaked your own fault at that point. Never pre-buy expansions passes if you try and set expectations based upon them upon future game play only fools do that. For until that content is out they always have the right to change it no matter what. Plus you are not ever buying a set amount of type of content with an expansion pass your are just buying access to the content when it is released. So to set expectations about what the content will have before it is even released is just stupid for it can and may change and no they don't have to care if you don't like it either.

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  • I've been a big proponent of playing Bungie's game rather than what i expect it to be. Doing that and taking the time to see how the changes Bungie makes affect gameplay before i judge those changes have kept me very happy with the game for a while. The only changes that have really frustrated me have been the catashtrophic nerfs to ARs and Fusion Rifles. Regardless, I'm still thrilled for HoW.

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  • People complain a lot, you have to understand that complaining about the same thing over and over does have a purpose. They hope the problem will be fixed by Bungie. The problem is when people complain about something that can't be fixed like "I don't have Gjally yet" over and over. There is no point, they aren't gonna get rid of RNGesus or drop one for free. Or animosity over pointless stuff like "master race". I like your post, but you have to understand that many positive people stay away from this forum (or lurk in the off topic section). I'm really looking forward to Trials and we'll see about Prison O'Elders. Maybe I'll see you there (PS4)!

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  • Twitch must die this HoW dlc sucks so bad that Bungie should be paying its consumers to play. You are a fanboy and your talk of entitlement shows you dont value your own worth.

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    • Bye Felicia! [spoiler]enjoy the rehashed last gen games flooding the marketplace[/spoiler]

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    • B.net isba though place to talk dude Whatever you write, If it is positive or negative ppl will complain hehe I am fxxking excited for HoW Destiny is getting better with every update and Bungie is working hard, i believe in them I am more on Twitch and yt and like how the Community builds their own groups and evolves everyday.

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    • Edited by Richard Wang: 5/4/2015 1:55:01 PM
      Hey guys...since Bungie isn't listening to us here let's all go to twitch, redit and YouTube to make it just like here....five hours later all destiny content is remove from those sights due to over whelming spam of nerf thorn post or I [b][i]need a gally[/i][/b].

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      • The TL/DR section was TL/DR

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        • Can a nutsack ever be too hairy? Definitely an interesting discussion point

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          • Well said.

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            • Could you repeat that with more detail,thanks.

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              • Great post.

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                • I don't know why you or anyone cares what the supposed community thinks and says, the community should not matter to your enjoyment of this game or any game. Personally I couldn't give a fcuk what anyone on here thinks or says, it has no bearing on my enjoyment or dislike of the game.

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                  • Great post and the part of this community that is negative need to sort themselves out. To the rest of us positive people, I wish you good luck in your life and also playing as one, two or on all three guardians when HoW is released!

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                    • Needing buffing annoys me as they seem unnecessary in pve and in the PVE shotgun buff they didn't change shotguns in pvp, but in the pvp nerfs they all affect pve. No raid doesn't bother me, unless PoE is bad. But people always find something to moan about, I guess.

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                      • I agree with you for the most. Nerffing and buffing are gigantic problems. Especially when it's 90% because of pvp and leads to some weapons being unmatchable and infuriating to play against, I'm looking at you Vex-M. I belive most of the community's problems are the fault of the game it self and not the players. Lack of a goal oriented loot system and disappointment in the content has pissed a lot of ppl of. When you considered what we were promised before launch can you really blame ppl for being mad.

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                        • Edited by SlightlyKrispy: 5/4/2015 10:55:37 AM
                          I agree with everything you said. Almost identical to how I've felt with this game. I'm not a day one player but I've put 791 hrs into this game and I've enjoyed every single one of them. Bungie owes me nothing. What other game could I say that for? Maybe the Fall Out series. But that is the two titles I've spent the most back to back hours playing. Now that's a great value for my dollars. Some people and their entitlement is sickening. So reading this from you was a breath of fresh air. So I thank you for that. These forums are a waste of time normally.

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                          • This is how you voice your opinion, people. Intelligent commentary.

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                            • I find that the community on the forums is toxic but the twitch community is really supportive and I mostly meet nice players when I raid and such so I don't think the forums is a fair representation of the community

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                              • Well said. Although I do not feel like the forum community represents the IN GAME community at all. Most of the people I meet in game are really cool and fun to play with, while these forums are really toxic and full of whiners. I chalk it up to the whiners being more vocal than the people who are content with the game and the direction its going.

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                                • I'm with you. I love the in game community. The forum community seems to be much more toxic and angry. I have only run into a few of the same type while actually in game. Most random Guardians I end up playing with are laid back and a lot of fun.

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                                  • I've only been with this game since December when I decided to take a break from RS and have enjoyed it a lot. But the community does take away from enjoying many aspects of the game.

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                                    • The Twitch reveals are the sales pitch.

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                                      • Bump

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                                        • Ill bump this for sure agreed with most points

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                                          • Edited by Gomly1980: 5/4/2015 9:50:58 AM
                                            It does genuinely surprise me when I see people call this forum "toxic". I do see a lot of rage and abuse but i've been around gaming communities for 30 years (yes, we still had them even though we had no internet back then) and this is one of the more placid forums i've seen. Any game with any sort of competition will attract a certain type of player, those that take things far too seriously and rage over everything. Not everyone is like that but you see them around. There is a reason that games like CoD, LoL, DoTA 2, Battlefield and the like all have terrible reputations. That competitive nature brings out the worst in some people and those people bring out the worst in others. Even single player games bring it out of people. BioWare's forums were, at one time, just a huge river of toxic sludge. They made these forums look like Hello Kitty's summer holiday camp. No idea if things have change, I haven't used them for a while. A lot of MMO's have god awful forums too. WoW, SWTOR, Rift and ESO are all pretty bad. These forums are pretty tame compared to a lot of forums out there. The community outside of the forums is pretty decent though.

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