I AGREE. everyone wants to cheese and not run relic. Earlier today, people were getting their asses kicked and a guy was saying how he "doesn't touch relic". Afterward, I ran the raids how it's [i]supposed[/i] to be done and it was so much fun. We taught a new guy how to run it without cheesing and to run relic! It went pretty well. We did confluxs with only 5 so we had crazy but clutching moments. Basically, if anyone is willing to have fun and run it legitmately, add me on xbox one: Oh Ninetales Always looking for experienced or curious players willing to learn & have fun.