alright, before I get bashed for posting this i just want to say i get it... but seriously cheesing takes the fun out of the game, if you cannot beat something without cheesing you do not deserve the reward, as simple as that. i am so tired of getting into raids when all people want to do is cheese everything, like seriously just get good. I get that you beat this checkpoint 1000x but were is the fun in cheesing?
commmon bungie patch everything before the hard raid comes out!
EDIT: cheese is delicious, and i have the munchies so everybody needs to making me hungry
EDIT2: I guess my main problem with the cheesing is that it just makes it too difficult to find a team that wants to/ knows how to do the raids legit.
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Not defending the cheese, but "get good" doesn't help. I've been in teams (randoms) that finished the normal raid in 45 mins and had to quit on a team at Atheon cause we spent over an hour trying to beat him. For me, some of it comes down to RnG also. I wouldn't care if something was really difficult if I know I'll get rewarded for it; but who the hell has 2 hours to kill a boss when (at least 3 times) I get the same gun I just used to kill it.