I respect the reduction on weapon damage due to so many people complaining and arguing about them. I do request one thing from the Bungie team to not mess with the guns power outside of the crucible and Iron banner. You guys would just make it much harder for players to complete raids and harder content. For example the vex mythoclast is strong, but the ammo is short and if you reduce its damage all around the gun is "garbage" in the raids and mission that are 28 and up. I would suggest to complain on reduction in crucible only. I would like for some people to message Bungie about keeping nerfing among crucible "ONLY." This will lose many players on Destiny since it will also effect the weapons(not just vex mythoclast, but shotguns, auto rifles, and possibly the rest). A possible reason auto rifles are being nerfed is because of the suro regime while all the others have no actual stability and the impact/damage is so minuscule the whole clip plus possibly even more is required to kill someone
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Edited by SiR I3aRt: 10/17/2014 8:58:07 PMIt already has lost players. And I hope a lot more go.
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It has lost players a few not many but others like myself found this patch to be the breaking point on a game that already hadn't met expectations for a lot of the player base and was kind of a disappointment to be honest with more patches like this people will undoubtedly hit their breaking point sooner or later and the game will lose more and more players or they'll pull it back somehow but as it is down the current trajectory path of this game its gonna crash and burn
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It seems every time the pvp community complains there's a patch,agreed that weapons should only be nerfed for pvp not pve.if you beat the raid on hard and got the vex it should be yours to enjoy untouched because the was nothing easy about it.i don't think they know just how big the pve community is or is it that we dont cry as much as pvp??.#stopruininggameplease
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2 weeks ago nobody knew about the mythoclast. 2 weeks later everyone wants it. Then it gets nurfed and everyone looses their mind. Grab an ice cube and cool down. The patch is barely noticeable.
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This update blows. All I have is legendary and exotic auto rifles and the crappy bad juju. They all suck so bad that I started using a rare pistol because I can kill 7-11 level 24 enemies per clip instead 1-3 of the auto rifles.
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Lack of content will lose players it gets boring fast
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The Shingen autorifles still have a unrealistically long range, and lack of recoil. We PvE players don't notice this because the it is only a very narrow window in our part of the game where the Shingen-C and the Shingen-E are useful before they get supplanted by weapons with higher attack ratings and that do more damage. But in the Crucible, all those things get normalized...so the Shingens allow players to just hose down people with bullets from halfway accross the map. In short, the autorifles have been "broken' since the beta, and Bungie is just finally getting around to reining them in. Automatic rifles are not long-range weapons. But at the end of the day, you're not going to be able to keep both PvE and PvP players happy with the same weapon stats. Because the whole point of PvE play is to find that OP superweapon that lets you mow down the monsters. But that same weapon in PvP play, breaks the game. ..and vice-versa. The changes that make PvP players happy, reduces you to throwing spitballs in high level PvE play.
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This patch is about to lose me I was gone for work for three days and when I come back my vex mythoclast now gets outgunned by ... every weapon in the game ... great all the hours I spent in the hardest place on the game to get the best weapon and its gone to get beat out by everything its useless I cant even beat a lv24 strike with it while on the other hand my suros is still killing everything just fine but thats fine because EVERYONE and thwir mother has the gun its such bull that you can even do that this is a game... the hardest weapon to get sought after only by the best is now completly useless. Thanks a lot bungie for wasting my time and my money
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Patch will only lose noobs not "Players"
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I agree. The only people who are complaining are those who play the crucible. I for one hardly ever touch crucible unless I'm REALLY bored. Like nothing else to do but crucible bounties bored. What about the people who only play PVE Bungie? Why do we have to suffer because of some Guardians who can't take a few shots? Answer is, we shouldn't.
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The only people complaining about this update is the people who relay on OP weapons that shouldn't be as OP...last time i checked this game incorporated team work.....but maybe I'm wrong.
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Here here
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Sweet another bounty completed, collect 200 tears on forums!
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I really dont think the weapon needed nerfing at all, if your any good at the game youd realize they have a mythoclast and stop trying to outgun them from 10 feet away, its a great auto rifle, i would have never guessed the hardest gun in the game to obtain would be able to outgun any other AR from 10 feet away, maybe we could use a little common sense and stay further away and just use maybe a hand cannon, scoutrifle or sniper to kill them from a better range suited for our weapon, but instead everybody complains that his autorifles to good because it kills me when were both in perfect AR range, now maybe id say nerf the suros a bit because that thing has more range than any AR should ever have, but since the average player has that gun were not going to touch it because then they would complain, great call nerfing the best weapon in the game, we wouldnt want players who played 200+ hours to have an advantage over a kid who just got the game
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I agree, They are ruining this game. I know at least 10 ppl about to take there game back, we spent 10+ hours on the hard raid and 2 days later my epic gun is tecnically a white label now.. i dont understand. why play the hardmode now?
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Agreed
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The guns weren't behaving as Bungie designed them, so they tweaked them. It's pretty simple really. Auto Rifles take less skill than a Scout or Pulse, and yet they were wrecking on everything. Got a shotgun? Just run straight at your enemy, firing wildly, and you will kill them. See? Unbalanced. Hence the balancing. And to bring back an old favourite from Reach; ADAPT.
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Oh no! The game is harder! I'm glad they doing this it means if I got shot in the foot I'm not dead , fusion rifles need nerfing the most though , I -blam!- like a shotgunner from rifle range
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How bout instead of downgrading the gun because of cry babies on pvp simply keep it as is but not be able to use it on pvp and only on pve.
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Another patch is set to release later today. How great! (Not)
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Guess what? The Lil kids that complain about everything... Bungie listens to and patches the shit. For an example... The vex mythoclast is overpowered... But I wonder why.? Oh that's right you gave to beat the Vog on hard. Now that is acceptable because Vog hard is superhard. And plus not everyone gets it for completing the Vog on hard. I have only seen it giving out to 3 ppl and I gave beat the Vog on hard 6 times now so quit freaking complaing and just game. Exotic should be overpowered hint hint that why it's called and "exotic" to me I think all exotic weapons should be overpowered. There hard to come by. The only exotics that should be nerfed in pvp are the ones that xur sells cuz everyone will have them. I also think that xur should have a cycle so everyone knows what he is selling not this random bullwhip.
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really what they did to the mythoclast is garbage......going from 51 crits down to 36? It gets out-gunned easily by suros with equally skilled players.... hands down.
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mythoclast is useless now just an ordinary weapon THE WHOLE POINT WAS BECAUSE IT WAS O.P THATS HOW IT SUPPOST TO BE
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I used a combination of weapons on VoG on Hard, guess what they wuz? Vex Mythoclass, The Comedian, and Zombie Apocalypse but see I was smart (And spent more of my damn life doing the following), I leveled up other weapons, I have an auto scout rifle (I bet that gets wrecked) a pulse rifle that shoots rather fast (Wreck that too because it's OP if it doesnt shoot like shit coming out of a sloths ass, its not wanted) and an auto rifle that has/had great stability, so now it all a matter of juggling within my armory. I will find a weapon thats' so OP and -blam!- everyone in crucible, just to hear them cry about it then move on to the next one, Bungie will be releasing so many hot fixes they wont have time to release DLC.
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They already lost me sadly like really the nerf just -blam!- all my hard work up never again
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im SO pissed off that they nerfed the auto rifle. It doesn't make sense. And the huge nerf on the vex. Are you serious? Do I have one yet, no, but I would want one and now what's the point. There needs be OP guns to keep people interested like myself who have over 100 hours. Now what should I stay for? The same missions? The same strikes? WTF bungie