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Edited by Mister Wrecked:
4/15/2024 6:05:00 AM
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Hot Take: Legend Onslaught Loot Is Fine
For about an hour of your time you get:
11 weapons.
Masterwork materials.
Shaxx currency (at least enough to buy a 12th weapon).
Plus as a bonus:
Many world drops (which may be useless armor, but could also be one of the great weapons in the current world loot pool).
Prime engrams (that can also drop some great weapons).
[i]Anyone who is suggesting that the lack of guaranteed shines is somehow not respecting players' time is crazy.[/i]
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lol everything you mentioned that you get for clearing 50 waves, I can get the same thing in the same amount of time just repeating the first 10 waves There’s NO reason to do the full 50
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6 RepliesFor 40 minutes or less in the coil I get 15 weapons ascendant alloy/shards and nightfall ciphers
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Only thing crazy is this hot take lol spend over an hour doing one of the hardest activities available and you don’t think one guaranteed shiny for a LIMITED time event is warranted? THAT is crazy
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The GuyLaughing at their “logic.” - 4/28/2024 3:45:17 PM
World drops are just 99% garbage/ sharded crap. Nobody needs the shards, anymore. -
1 ReplyEdited by Pope: 4/16/2024 6:09:33 AM
PopePopePK on YouTube - old
When investing a large amount of time into playing an activity that gradually rewards loot through each tier, one of two things need to happen to make the mode feel worth playing all the way through to the end: 1. Increase the amount of loot you receive after every 10 waves. Perhaps one chest at 10 waves, two chests at 20 waves, three chests at 30 waves, etc. or 2. Keep the amount of rewards the same but after completing a full 50 waves, the final chest rewards a random guaranteed shiny variant. Players are not complaining to be complaining. The main issue is that they feel their time isn’t being respected. After spending well over an hour of their time into just one activity, they don’t feel much excitement at completion. The rewards are simply lackluster and when you compare the rewards from the first 10 waves of legend and the rewards from the final 10 waves of normal, there is absolutely no difference besides the amount of time invested. The legend chests are supposedly better and offer higher shiny rates as well. One extra basic chest isn’t enough to warrant spending an entire hour in just one activity. That is why players are running 10 waves of legend and resetting. Less time investment, less difficulty with two improved chests compared to one basic chest. When more players realize this, we will start to see an influx of players joining our activities and leaving after the first 10 waves which can be a huge complication. The reason why players enjoy The Coil is because they are gradually rewarded throughout each section and massively rewarded at the end. Onslaught shouldn’t be any different considering how long the activity takes to complete. Onslaught takes twice as much time to complete than The Coil, a bit higher in difficulty and only offers about 25% the loot, minus the ascendant alloys, ascendant shards and red borders. It was also said on the [url=https://www.twitch.tv/videos/2095393499]live stream[/url] that the shiny variants would be plentiful but they are not. Many have said said 50/50. I'm feeling more of a 25/75. When Bungie devs explained that the shiny variants were to be rare but they didn't mean rare as in having an incredibly bad drop rate - they meant rare as in only being obtainable during the limited time. Many are confusing these two things. If you're going to increase the difficulty and increase the length of the activity, you need to increase the amount of rewards or give better rewards. It's not complicated, it's game design 101. -
For most of us, the shiny weapons are the only reason to do this activity, and Bungie absolutely failed that. As far as resetting Shaxx, you can’t. You stop earning experience after reaching level 17 which most of us did back on like Thursday or Friday.
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While i agree thats only if you have a good team. I might make it to wave 10 by myself, with a team for some reason i get nothing but idiots.
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2 RepliesEdited by Apollo_XIX: 4/15/2024 12:59:41 PMGoing the full 50 on Legend doesn't respect your time compared to just running 10 or 20 on repeat is the issue And 12 weapons with the only RNG mitigation being double perks on a very rare limited time version also sucks pretty bad
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1 ReplyEdited by The Legend Himself: GONZO: 4/15/2024 5:23:10 PM
The Legend Himself: GONZOGONZO - old
Agreed! Onslaught is a great activity with great rewards. Far too many people in this community love to complain for the sake of complaining. -
6 RepliesIf the optimal strategy for an activity is to run 1/5 of it and then restart over and over and over, then no, the loot is not fine. Period.
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Def a Hot take
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8 RepliesEdited by Magiscene: 4/15/2024 12:23:11 PMAnd not 1 guaranteed shiny brave weapon after 50 waves. Until they make that change legend onslaught isn’t okay.
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Edited by Angelo: 4/16/2024 7:40:32 AM
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[quote]Anyone who is suggesting that the lack of guaranteed shines is somehow not respecting players' time is crazy.[/i][/quote] I get that they're only available to farm for a Limited Time, but I feel like I'm the only one who doesn't care enough for them and dismantled everyone of them except for the Guillotine and Recluse. People are valuing these items so much that they're getting upset. As a gamer, I can sort of understand, but at the same time, I'm like, ehh. (No offense to the fans of those rewards) -
I disagree.
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If you don't care about the guns, it's 100% not worth touching. A full coil run nets you alloys, shards, red borders. The main issue here is the whole game is suffering from lack of incentive, every aspect needs new things, new guns, new shaders, new emblems, new ornaments, even the content is very rarely new anymore
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Edited by Ray: 4/15/2024 6:32:30 PMThere’s still no incentive behind it tho. When coil gives you better rewards, for less of the amount of time and less difficulty, there’s a problem I feel like a shiny should drop once a week per character for the weapon you have attuned. That way it’ll give people some reason to replay if they don’t get the roll they want. Like how people farm raids for rolls or GMs Until then, there’s literally no reason to do all 50 waves on legend when you can just farm the first 10 waves
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It’s so easy for them to up the caring by changing the drop to a selectable shiny at the chest. I agree the drops are bad especially if you haven’t maxed your rank… but a guaranteed shiny would make people stay in for 50. Right now it’s 10 and reset
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I did 50 waves or normal 5 or so times and got more stuff than I knew what to do with. Giving away the collectors editions because people make the same greedy complaints they always do would be a mistake IMHO. Also they'll probably be dropping more anyways for the people that don't have any or very many by the end.
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4 RepliesWhat are shines? And in regular mode, why don't we get anything extra when the bonus round activates? At least in dares there are more chests.
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That's only a hot take on the forums. Most people aren't whiny babies.
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Facts
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I have had no issues getting the rolls I want. I’ve gotten 2 shiny recluses. The perfect shiny succession and my new favorite pulse rifle. The only issue I’m having is edge transit. Very happy with the update so far! I do wish they made the whisper mission a bit harder but that’s nitpicky for an activity that I’m only gonna do a couple times.
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Yes I can wait to get my spike envious assassin Forecourt Velocity Grenade launcher I want this roll just like the old interference IV and thanks wrecked didn’t think my prime would give me that as I normally scrap all prime engrams 👍🏻
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Yes and Yes. #letsgo
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Agree 100%, I only wish they didn't give us a 20th hung jury LOL
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so true and Agree #PREACHTHEFACTS
