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9/18/2017 9:35:43 AM
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Why are Hunters so bad now? And still ghost bullets?
I feel like they nerfed the Hunter into the ground in destiny 2. No good exotics, no good perks in its subclasses and low resilience that I get shot twice with a weapon and I'm in the brink of death. Yet, the other classes are op as ever specially the warlock like always. Bungie you guys really need to rework the Hunter and while you at it fix the damn ghost bullets in handcanons still present in destiny 2.
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1 ReplyYou people don't understand what latency is, do you? Took me a whold of 5 seconds to figure out what you meant by ghost bullets. Latency. Look it up.
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2 RepliesHunters are insane in PvE right now with the stun lock mechanic on a lot of bosses, infinite super with Orpheus Rig, and 3 second boss kills with Nighthawk and solar burn. Their problem is PvP. The biggest problem to me is that speed is so lackluster when compared to defense/recovery. If mobility was significantly better and allowed you to quickly close the gap it would make hunters really excel at playing aggressive. Even at 9 or 10 speed I barely outpace the other classes. Even worse, Arcstrider has no legitimate gap closer, no initial damage on cast, no ranged abilities. They even lose all momentum when casting the ult, unlike in D1 when you could cast while in the air or sliding to maintain speed. Yes all classes lose momentum, but it hurts Arcstrider the most. It's amazing in PvE, but in PvP it's the worst ult. (Just my opinion)
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5 RepliesHunters are fine. You just must play poorly
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6 RepliesEdited by Denos Bambinos: 9/18/2017 4:33:55 PMDid you even hear about the Orpheus Rigs at all? You can literally gain all your abilities (Grenade, Melee, Dodge AND SUPER) just by using your super Granted you do have to tether around 6-9 enemies depending on whether they are majors or not But this makes hunter one of the best classes to play in PvE since Warlock and Titan only get their abilities slightly faster by specific actions ie. Arc kills or getting hurt But COME ON... YOU GET YOUR SUPER BACK FOR USING YOUR SUPER (I can't confirm this but I assume) If you use Quiver you dont even need to hope the enemy are all bunched up together, you could probably shoot into multiple bunches of small enemy groups like lets say 3-4 groups of like 1-3 enemies. And in PvP Arcstider is just BladeDancer on CRACK More maneuverability and all attacks have a short distance ranged attack making it more likely of killing enemies Also in PvP you have the choice at a Gunslinger that you needed to use up an exotic slot to be 60% as effective in your shots. I am of course talking about Aclophage Symbiote In D1 you had to USE UP an armor exotic slot just for an extra bullet in D2 you have a WHOLE subclass subset dedicated for 6 COUNT THEM 6 SHOTS Sure the super lasts less time but lets say all 4 members of the enemy team are either grouped up or at a bit of range the fact that Golden Gun bullets are already like the size of a TRUCK you get 6 of them to blast people with you should be able to kill all 4 guys. AND in PvE Strikes or Raid mostly [u]PRECISION[/u] CELESTIAL NIGHTHAWK SHOT need I say more This is why I main Hunter
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9 RepliesAs a Hunter main, I've noticed a significant [i]difference[/i], but not so much a [i]nerf[/i]. My Hunter uses a mobility 10 build and I have to say; it's pretty mean. Pairing it with the MIDA and miniMIDA, I'm zipping around causing panic and disorientation. I really have no need for resilience, but I have armor mods that help with recovery. Moving to sub classes, I prefer the good ol Gunslinger. My one and only complaint about them is their throwing knife. It's definitely not as rewarding landing a precision hit with them. I'm in love with everything else, however. Personally, I feel they have made the Hunters how they should have been from the start. To come out of nowhere, pick off a few enemies and retreat back to their team. I definitely play the offensive support role. I stick close with the team, use my utilities sparingly and mop up anyone that tries to intervene. Sticking with this mindset, I've come to enjoy crucible a bit more. I'm not a god by any means, I don't win every single game, but I'm happy to say I stay positive 9/10 games. I don't think the Hunters need adjusted, I think the players simply need the time to adjust to their new role. There's definitely a new learning curve, but it's worth learning. You aren't a tank, don't think you can sponge damage.. Leave that job to our Titans.
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True that. Anyone that argues with this post saying hunters are bad for us because lack of "skill" need to make a hunter and stick with it for 2 weeks without switching. Because hunters are 1, the squishiest class in any mode especially PVP due to our lack of armor and recovery. 2. There is no skill in Destiny 2 anymore. It's nothing but clans bunched together teamshoting and bullet hosing in Crucible with autos and scouts.
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2 RepliesWTH. Hunters are so annoying in PvP, rolling all over the place. Overpowered grenades.
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1 ReplyWTF are you talking about. hunters are still the best PvP class in the game.
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I agree. Hunters were given the short end of the stick. Mobility is the only thing I get on my armor and it's like we are forced to maintain lower resilience and low recovery. Hunters are very very squishy in Crucible and handcannons do need a major buff.
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Stomp ee5 are actually pretty good if you like being squirly.
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Knucklehead radar is great, I'm currently maining golden gun in PVP now and my KD is only going up. Permanent radar on All weapons, evade and good super. Great sniper build
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1 ReplyLucky raspberry and knucklehead radar are two of the best pvp exotic in the game.
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10 RepliesEdited by Tomnipotent: 9/18/2017 12:18:32 PMWhile I'm still in the process of making my hunter. Isn't gunslinger still really good? Everyone other super you can defend yourself against but there is still no defense or fighting golden gun. Lol if you see a golden gun it means death. I don't run from strikers, defenders, storm callers, etc but as soon as I see someone used golden gun? You run, you gtfo immediately. Golden gun is the ultimate PvP super, doesn't matter how far away you are, if you are in the line of sight, you die period.
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6 Replies[quote]No good Exotics[/quote] Orpheus Rig and Celestial Nighthawk would like to talk to you.
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4 Replies*Faster reload speed for sidearms* seriously wtf is [armory]Mechaneer's Tricksleeves[/armory]
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4 RepliesEdited by Wickedking44: 9/19/2017 3:24:16 PMPVE: Each class requires a different play style. If you sit in 1 spot, take a lot of hits and do a lot of damage play a Titan. Warlock umm... someone help me out here. Hunters need to be constantly moving. Dish out damage on the fly, tether for ads. JUMP! jump a lot. Story Time: Playing the raid with my clan we were at Calus last night. 2 of us experienced hunters, 1 a vet titan playing on his hunter (at a higher power level than the rest of us, 1 of 2 people in the group to have beaten it before.) Guess who died so many time he must've enjoyed it. The point is classes are not just cosmetic they are fundamentally different and each has there role. I will say the dodge could use a buff. Take less damage while dodging because its not like I ever use it until I'm half dead anyhow.
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1 ReplyDid you even played D1??? Hunter are actually balanced for once. I am a year 1 hunter main since the beginning and hunters are equals if not better. True that in PvE the don't bring that much to help the team. But the amount of damage the can pull off in their super is insane. And actually hunter have the best exotic in the whole game. It recharges your super depending on the number of ennemies you've hit with the arrow. Just stop saying hunters are bad because as of rn they are perfect.( except for explosive throwing knives that are too powerful but that's just my opinion;))
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1 ReplyNo good exotics? You must not have heard of Orpheus Rig.
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3 RepliesTitans get a wall Warlocks get an aura Hunters get a shitty dodge which gets you killed 7 out of 10 times
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Semper Fidelisjust a game - old
hunters for skilled people, like warlocks (void, blink)...titans for campers - no skill needed -
2 RepliesGood god I thought it was just the Titans. Is it just the Stats on the Hunters? Or is it the way they play like the Titans now? I main Titan so I was wondering if you feel like the Hunter isn't the Hunter anymore.
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I can agree with this, it feels like the class abilities are retarded. It doesn't let me help my team out. I personally love using hand cannons and don't like that they still have extreme blooming and ghost rounds. I'm disappointed with Bungie. I wouldn't say the other classes are overpowered, but Hunter has lost it's role in the team. It no longer fits in properly
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7 RepliesHunters are not op. You just need to learn to play them. They arent as tanky as titans and they dint recover as fast as warlocks. Go back learn how to play a hunter. And then complain. What you have to do is use your movility and jump to your advantage. Start jumping out of cover and shooting while in the air. Play vertically more and horizontally less
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I'd agree with you if my invisible roll and shadow shot hadn't saved trials games for my team. The ability to take away supers and straight up sneak revive has lead my team to victory on many occasions. Not to mention that my hunter is the only thing keeping my team from wiping in pve. I do think it needs a little more love and balancing but it's not as bad as you say.
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The hit registration and "ghost bullets" is because of the crappy P2P connections and 30fps.
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6 RepliesHaha what? hunters are arguably he best and strongest class right now. As someone who ONLY plays a single hunter and has played 1 hunter since Day 1 of Destiny 1 with over 2k hours in i can assure you hunters where buffed. Significantly Either you just suck as them or you just suck in general. They are the least FPS type class in the game. They rely way more on mobility, dodging, using your melee and abilities effectively. Maybe go play like a titan or something? (Not bashing titans just saying they are more FPS shooter based)
