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2/26/2017 3:22:07 AM
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Special is just a chore to use now

It seems rather unnecessary to play in this loop of dying, special spawns, you pick it up and watch yourself reload just to die and have the loop begin again endlessly. The ammo really should automatically go into your special if you're going to have it spawn so fast. Either that or have it spawn every 90 seconds from 60. That would need testing of course.

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  • Then deal with it and use a primary. No more shotgun crutch for you.

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    • John Wick wouldn't complain about special ammo. Just saying.

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      • [quote]Destiny is just a repetitive chore now.[/quote] -Fixed.

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      • Come on lets not troll no everybody knows what a primary weapons is

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      • My foot up your ass is just a chore now

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      • I just accepted it and started using sidearms. Sure I could have some great games with shotguns but, you spend too much time waiting overall throughout the game. Trespasser is so much fun to use. Also, use Dregs Promise! That gun is beastly.

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      • You have a radar. A constant radar. If you pick up special and then die to a other player. You probably should have killed the guy first, then got special. Or take the special, knowing you'll probably die, but then they can't get it.

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        • I know they're trying to force primary engagements but keyword FORCE them and that's a bad thing fun wise but a good thing balance wise. No one is really playing ape style anymore which is boring to me I don't know how people just sit in one lane the entire time with an NLB it's boring obnoxious to play against and bad for the health of the game. They should've just buffed primaries in the last patch instead of taking away our ammo AGAIN. Don't get me started on the health regen perks nerf (it will make the roaming supers easier to take down now that we don't have ammo which again makes the game more boring that you can't smash an entire team with bladedancer) and the truth nerf was completely uncalled for, who was complaining about truth?

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        • That was kind of the point of this latest hotfix. They wanted to force people to rely on primary weapons and open the door for sidearms to become the most useful special weapon. Make no mistakes about it, pretty much every consequence of this patch was intended. That is howa rotating meta works. Knock down the current meta soa new meta can rise. Sidearms only stand out because of their ability to always spawn with ammo. Special ammo for all other weapons needed to be nerfed to let sidearms stand out, and coincidentally, the players' demands thst something be done to force ppl away from special weapons coincides with the changes they made. Bungie only uses the stick (nerfs) to get the desired results though. They never use the carrot (buffs) to try to incentivize certain behavior like reliance on primaryweapons. Doing so would mean increasing average ttk for all primaries in general so they can compete with better with special weapons. They can't do that, this game must have slow ttks and be ultra-balanced so it can become an mlg-E-sport.

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        • I wonder why they dont keep special ammo after you die in some modes like supremacy or clash. And you loose it in skirmish/elimination

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          • Use.... A.... Primary. Let go of the thousand foot crutch you shotty warrior ape.

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            • Use a primary

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              • Yea it's all handcannons sidearms now. Not fun. Funny how year 1 was a primary meta but specials weren't useless...

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              • "Special has become a chore to use" That was the intention.

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                • Changes are fantastic primary era is beginning the primary dynasty lol .

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                  • Bump.

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                  • Reap what we sow

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                  • i hardly use specials outside of sidearms anymore, it feels so rediculas to spawn without it

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                  • Wish we could just spawn with special and let it carry over through death like they it did before the hotfix. Special has alway been a part of Crucible game type and Destiny has almost taken it away from us. I'm tired of being limited to sidearms and snipers that aren't effected by the special ammo economy. https://www.bungie.net/en/Forums/Post/222737736

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                    • Maybe that's why you are alone..... YOUR.... "SPECIAL"

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                      • Sounds awesome! I might have to dust off my hand cannon, and get back into the Crucible.

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                      • Completely agree

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                      • Ok i for one love this meta, i always used my primary get my kills, so this does fit my playing style. But the only thing that needed nerfed going into this meta was the range of some shotguns and the warlock melee from another zip code. I would of been happy. But i gotta tell you guys i'm really enjoying this meta. But i get your point. There has been times were i got caught wanting to counter sidearm with my fusion rifle, and had to bit the bullets. So far i have been killing it with the fusion. One on one will out shot the sidearm, my experience so far

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                      • It really makes Mayhem Clash a pain in the ass. What's the point of picking up Special if I'm just going to get Nova Bomb'd or Fist of Havoc'd right after I pick it up? Seems pretty stupid that the change applied to that mode too.

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                        • Edited by ManatuBear: 2/26/2017 4:22:36 PM
                          You can always use a sidearm, or Ice Breaker. I personally use either Trespasser or Ice Breaker, it's not like i need to have an exotic in the primary or heavy slot anyway... The only exotic heavy worth using was nerfed (and there are excelent legendary replacements with similar perks, since Truth tracking was heavily nerfed) and many legendary primaries are MUCH better than the exotics (currently).

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                          • Yup. Stupid change.

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