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Edited by Cozmo_BNG: 11/13/2015 11:21:15 PM
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Feedback on Raid rewards

Many of you have expressed feedback on the current state of Raid rewards in [url=https://www.bungie.net/en/Forum/Post/173128942/0/0]this thread[/url]. Also [url=https://www.bungie.net/en/Forum/Post/173274395/0/0]here[/url], and even [url=https://www.bungie.net/en/Forum/Post/173056904/0/0]here[/url], among other places. Rather than go and response to every post I am going to address them all in this post. We are listening to all of your feedback and ideas on how to improve rewards for completing one of Destiny's greatest challenges. I have made sure these posts have made it to the right people. I'm also adding "Improvement to Raid rewards" to the [url=https://www.bungie.net/en/Forum/Post/140885111/0/0]#CommunityWishList[/url], but don't have any immediate changes to announce right now. Please continue to post your thoughts and ideas on how to better improve rewards, and everything else you would like to see changed.
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  • I think moldering shards should be a form of currency. After you have collected said amount you can go to eris morn and buy the 320 gauntlets or whatever that never drop for you. Have one currency for hard and one for normal mode. 2 normal =1 hard. If something like this was implemented then I think the drops are fine how they are. I also think challenge mode is a great feature and hope it stays for later raids. Guaranteed 320 drops but not an instant 320 character after beating it. It helped a lot of people cross the 315-317 gap. Another idea is maybe make 5 moldering shard be able to raise the attack or defense of any item by 1 point.

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    • Im sorry but i just spent HOURS inside hard mode raid and i got a freaking 311 ghost shell from oryx!!!!!!!!!!!!! How the hell can u fix exploits in a matter of days and you cant fix the raid rewards. This is is crazy that i WASTE my time for absolutely nothing out of your raids. Do your jobs and fix this shit!!!!!!!!!!

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    • How about letting us infuse armor with armor? Not helmet and helmet but helmet and chest. And to make it a little balanced, it can cost twice as much materials to infuse to another piece of different armor. Weapons? I'm iffy on that. I don't want to ruin the fun.

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      • Edited by Nude247: 12/15/2015 12:03:00 AM
        Why is it taking over a year to make a satisfying loot system?

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      • Raid weapons and armour drop mostly drop at 312 or 311 rating. I can't progress because of this. And sometimes you get nothing but mouldering shards. Especially at warpriest. If you guys weren't so stingy on the rng, you wouldn't hear all these complaints. It would be nice to get something after the first part instead of just shards

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      • Auto rifles don't need a buff, TLW is already op and a buff will break the game

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      • 15 odd hard mode completions and not a single primary over 310. Damn.

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      • 15+ runs between 2 warlocks and no hard mode helmet. wanna explain that shit?

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        • Yes too many duplicate drops, and too many drops that are lower than my light level..

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        • Thanks Cozmo, completing raid on hard and getting double moldering shards and double worm spore is kinda frustrating lol.

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        • This is getting very frustrating... ran the hard raid and i got 320 gear because of golgoroth challenge but other than that my rewards were as follows: Totems: 2 moldering shards Warpriest: 2 moldering shards Golgoroth: 307 chest (and then challenge rewards) Daughters: 311 mark Oryx: 312 auto rifle and 300 mark. I do love your game but something seriously needs to be done about the raid rewards. Unfortunately it may be too late because i know this unrewarding grind gor gear is taking its toll on a lot of players.

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          • Today I completed the golgoroth challenge mode with my fire team and the emblem showed up on the right with all our rewards. Except I didn't have a free slot in emblems. I assumed it's go to the post master...nope. I then though, not to worry I'll just collect it from the emblem vender kiosk...nope. Won't allow me to pick it up either. :((

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          • Stop the moldering shard madness. I could understand if it equaled out to 20 by the time you reached oryx (4 shards per chest) but 2 shards really? After all that work. And yes its work. I dont care if you're a destiny prodigy at either hard mode or normal mode, finally beating a raid boss after helping a fireteam of newbs for 2 hours only to get 2 moldering shards and some wormspore, is f***ing insulting. If thats going to be the reward for the grind then the whole idea of the raid is lost. Raids are about teamwork, communication, and strategy. Some people have close friends they can play with which makes it a little easier for them and thats fine. But the majority of players have to coordinate with complete strangers making a little bit more difficult especially if said stranger is not a patient person. Again thats fine, back to lfg for a 6th man so that we can beat a raid boss. 1 hour later, we finally beat the boss and whats our reward? A 310-320 weapon? No. A new ship? Nope. Please at least some strange coin. You wish. Whats your reward...2 moldering shards. Loosen the purse strings bungie.

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          • Honestly I've stopped trying to play the raid. Getting a skilled enough team together is hard enough then getting useless rewards. I basically just help lower light level people level up doing anything I can besides the raid. I play destiny way less because there's nothing to do besides raid now for the same rewards that don't really help. I haven't seen one 320 person yet and I know there's people who raid 24/7. So I know I have no shot. I don't need instant gratification I just need something to do to help progress me that doesn't require 6 people and hours for one mission. I'll play hours worth of 90 missions that can be like the raid in different sections. Idk. More hard boss levels or strikes with better rewards. Harder night falls with challenge mode or super hard mode. Anything that isn't rinse and repeat like the raid. I don't wanna run around on floating platforms for 45 min trying to shoot ogres and then oryx for five seconds. Can we just have an all out battle with the next raid boss instead of people who wipe us in one hit if our damage isn't high enough for five seconds? Where is the role playing in the rpg? Everyone looks the same because the best armor is the only good armor. Primary guns are weak sauce now. Give me like week long quests every week that require a bunch of time and a regular fire team with 90 steps and a high rewards piece of equipment. I want shit to do all week instead of having it done on Tuesday and coming back to see what xur has Friday. I love the game. It is fun. But I need more to do. Please help me kill boredom before I resort to drugs and alcohol because my town is boring. Also it's winter. I need shit to do.

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          • Too many complainers , they're making it easier to get high gear (challenge mode / SRL ) like stfu you little cry baby's

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            • Hard rewards are terrible. Last night got a 314 ghost she'll on Hard Oryx at Oryx part plus 2 moldering shits. So many people have quit because of this. Do you want me to quit to? Respect our time and our efforts and increase the drop rate.

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              • It's okay.. I like getting moldering shards the whole time. Then I'll use my 20 moldering shards for a ghost shell

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                • shards for hard mode is unacceptable imo.

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                • Why to even try to do anything else than oryx this week at least you know you gonna get something 320 Loot system is brooken Doing hard mode and gettin loot from normal .. Hehe

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                  • Before the challenge mode was introduce I was one who complained about the loot drops that the rewards where garbage but now I have no complaints because they're guaranteed to drop both 310 and 320 gears so good job on that. Just wish the helmet and primary would drop more frequently as it only has drop once per character and I've complete it every week since launch.

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                    • Drop rates for oryx and most other areas of the raid definitely need to be boosted. I played hard mode and normal, on each character every single week and never got a primary weapon or a helmet. That's insanely frustrating. Finally my luck panned out with a 311 smite of merain. The only reason I wasn't completely discouraged by the light level and pissed off was cause it had firefly on it.

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                    • Players receive 320 light gear in the first week of SRL. I've spent countless hours working in tandem with other players to beat the toughest part of the game and haven't gotten anything close to that. The reward system and light level system are the most discouraging part of this game In It's current state. How can this be justified? How can a player spend a couple days on SRL and get this high level end game gear while another may spend weeks trying to perfect their raid strategy only to get beaten by unfair RNG? I would play more if it was rewarding for me to spend time on this game. I'm essentially wasting time playing it (and repeating content mindlessly) for rewards, as much as other disgruntled players. Believe me when I say this; the loot issue is a large part of why players like myself have moved onto more rewarding games. Bungie has been slowly devaluing player equity since the beginning and that's why they are losing old players and will lose new ones at an even faster rate.

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                      • I know this is probably just me having bad luck but all the gear I got on my Hunter is great except for my ghost. I've had a 310 ghost shell for 6 weeks.

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                      • Just wondering why y'all would give 320 helmets from a 5 minute event like racing but after 40 hard raids I still don't have one.

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                        • I completed most of the raid on normal today with my Titan. He didn't receive one piece of gear, accidentally had to skip to oryx. I got moldering shards. Besides the challenge, my Hunter received a normal cloak from hard daughters. I'm happy for the challenge rewards but was expecting anything from the rest of the raid.

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                        • What happened to that better RNG that was promised prior to TTK releasing? Why can't you guys stick to your word? Too busy finger poppin' each other's assholes?

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