So there is a massive amount of back and forth going on about D2 and frames per second and there is a lot of shit posting going on because the consoles are 30 fps. I had some back and forth with a streamer today about it and I'm going to pose the same question here that I asked him (and he refused to answer). [b][i]Where do you want to scale back content to up the frame rate for PvP?[/i][/b] Much like the crucible/balancing debacle that has been Destiny 1, for every cause there is an effect. For every nerf in PvP, PvE players took a hit to their play. This is no different and I'm sorry, but I'm tired of my experience in PvE being dictated by a small portion of the community that is only concerned with their k/d and PvP success. Trials dictated too much of Destiny 1 gameplay and here we are days after the first official reveal and once more the hardcore PvPers are asking for changes without considering the consequences. Here are the facts about increasing Frames Per Second. You can either upgrade your equipment to top end or you can sacrifice performance in other areas to boost fps. I can maybe understand that some console gamers may not get this concept, but I'm seeing players purporting to be PC gamers who don't understand how this works and that to me is just mind boggling. When you have a pc with a high end processor and graphics card, you crank everything to 11 and marvel at the amazing graphics. when you have a decent to pretty good pc with a decent processor and graphics card you have choices. Do you want better draw distance? Higher resolution? Better lighting and shadows? Increased world effects like clouds, weather, grass, particle effects like spells and abilities, etc? Higher anti-aliasing? All those things take resources- memory and processing power and they all contribute to lower frames per second performance. So when you get into 25 man raid or large team PvP battle and you computer that runs at 60 fps playing solo dips to 20 fps and possibly below with enough things going off onscreen and the choppiness starts to affect play you have that choice. You can upgrade you system or you can sacrifice other performance to get higher fps. Lower the view distance. Lower the lighting and shadows. Lower the resolution and anti-aliasing. Lower the particle effects. Cause/effect PS4 is that pretty good computer and to get it to run 60 fps, it's going to require sacrificing performance elsewhere. So again, where would those who are demanding 60 fps like to see them scale back? Because it comes at a cost.