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Edited by Penhalion Wolfe:
3/27/2017 10:09:41 AM
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[quote]Zelda has the "If you see it, you can go there." motto[/quote]
I'm going to guess you're not an Alpha, Beta, Day one player. This is not a bad thing but, it does mean that you missed the initial promise and I guess what turned out to be one of the first lies that Bungie told about Destiny. It was 100% supposed to be exactly that i.e. an "if you see it you can go there" open world environment on patrols.
Don't take my word for it though just google and watch the original Alpha footage and reveal walkthroughs by Bungie themselves no less.
No-one who lived through that is ready to believe for a second anything Bungie say about what D2 will be. Some will fall for the hype or be drawn in by the frankly toxic streaming community that's grown up around D1 and Trials and who will undoubtedly be the first invited to any D2 gameplay events. The rest of us will play the wait and see game. Buying D2 day one, no matter what "pre-order bonus' are promised is a no no for me. Also, although I alpha'ed on PS4 and Beta'ed on there too. I played properly on XBox one and already Bungie are starting to create PS4 exclusive bonus content with Sony. This means that, unless the XBox price is lower as a result. I'm actually going to wait until D2 hits a bargain bucket so I don't feel ripped off. Heck XBox still doesn't have Jade Rabbit! Or all the strikes!
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but you can go there if you can sparrow fly. you just can't land or actually do anything, including land on the ground.
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Yeah nothing like what we were promised, in the vidocs you can see the queens emblem in the directory and the vestian outpost as well I believe, all that was already supposed to be implemented I tot he vanilla game but was cut out and offered as DLC. you see another group of 6 guardians join 6 other guardians to fight a devil walker, you can even see Deej I believe pick up a thunderlord and another girl picks up a patience and time! Exotics! For the first mini boss you fight at the beginning! The weapon upgrade tree looked nothing like how it does now. Of course you really can't blame Bungie fully however, most of the time it's the publishers greed as this is not the first time, back when halo 3 was in its glory days, when new DLC came out, you were locked out of certain playlists, and thus you were forced to buy that DLC to play that playlist, Microsoft was their publisher back then and sure it might have been only $10-$15 compared to hundreds of dollars we spent on destiny but it was still their publisher that forced that on them, if it were up to Bungie, they would give us a full and polished great AAA title worthy of carrying the title Bungie on the cover, but there is and always will be that publishers greed.
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Look at my emblem. I've been around as long as every other beta player. I don't remember the promise, though. But I still agree with your comment.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V9YoJjdEBv8
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Notice how the dead body doesn't fall through the ground? That's playable terrain. Bungie just made it off-limits.
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If it's off limits then it's not playable. I don't care that my body can land on something or fall through if it's unplayable, what's the difference?
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I'm just saying, Bungie didn't lie about that area being playable terrain.
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Edited by Tree Fox: 3/27/2017 1:45:55 PMIt was never promised. People have twisted the original quote to suit their agendas. The guy was talking about playable space. Areas that Bungie could go into and add things, if they wanted. Basically, playable space is "You see those mountains over there? They have geometry. You can run all the way to them, without falling through the ground." The community took it as, "OMG gaiz we shulda been able 2 go to tha mowntanzzzz!!!!!"
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Edited by Blackcrow3k: 3/27/2017 4:27:49 PMThe comment was made during this demo: [url]https://youtu.be/BTfhrONAp-c?t=2m14s[/url] To wit: "A place I like to call 'Older Russia'. "So all of this...is playable space that we hope to one day get to send you to." "It is all real geometry. You could [i]go there right now. We could go there right now,[/I] but we have an appointment to keep. *Throws grenade at space/cars in the distance" I'm not one to belittle Bungie over what was promised or not promised. I am alright with how the game turned out versus what was demo or promised in all the over-hyped vidocs. Been since Beta and watched how much the game has evolved/changed for better or worse. That being said, let's not sugar-coat it with a "this is what they meant" excuse 3 years down the line. He didn't explain what the "playable space" was; it was flat out implied you could go anywhere. Truth is, it was a screw up line that was never explained until far too late after the fact. In other Bungie demos of the same footage no else makes a quote with the same mistake, but that version was released (via sources like IGN) more extensively. So, yeah, if you've been playing since that early on, stuff like this demo (among with some of the other vidocs Bungie released) definitely created a certain layer of expectation that never met the actual game. Call it over-hype or lying as you prefer. The point being that @Penhalion Wolfe wariness is something understandable about what Destiny 2 will promise to be (or not be), and what they call "open space/open world" is definitely on the questionable list.
