If destiny goes full blown mmo on us I hope pvp equipment is completely separate from pve. PvE bores the life out of me. I loved raiding for the social aspect. Meeting friends in lfg, mastering a raid and helping people through it. Teaching them every aspect and showing them a new standard of understanding and willingness to help, deeply contrasting the elitism we've all had to witness at some point. I know, I'm so humble, but I really do love that feeling. What I hate is gearing up to the raid standard. It's boring. I hate the mmo grind. I hate infusion and leveling. I'm all up for some perfect roll rng, but, even though I didn't experience it, I feel I'd much rather have the ability to take my armor and upgrade it through materials. Actual mmos have a ridiculous grind. Start with gen 1 equipment, spend dozens of hours upgrading it, next patch you do it all over again. Forget all that. I'll do it if I have to, for pvp and raids sake, but I won't enjoy it.