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Edited by Shen Anzusen:
10/9/2015 6:15:18 PM
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It's okay that I can not headshot-kill a sunbreaker during super
...BUT: When I run a Stormcaller with max armor and an armor increasing chestpiece, it's gotta be the same. And I also want that health regen after a kill.
Same goes for the bladedancers. Yes, they have regen, but increase their armor until you can't oneshot them with a high-impact sniper-headshot.
Let the titans have their OP super, but give the other classes one aswell and we won't have to nerf anything.
How about that?
Edit:
Obviously the solution is to down the sunbreakers armor so that a high impact sniper (1000yardstare) can headshot kill them during super.
I originally wrote this, because I didn't want to have the same discussion as in all the other nerf posts.
Titans act like we wanted them nerfed until they are "crap" like a defender, which is clearly not the case. All it takes to be appropriate is a little less armor. That's it.
Edit 2:
Really guys? You think it's appropriate to need the exotic Black Spindle? -.-
Edit 3:
I'm aware that Titans only have that much armor if they run max armor plus chestpiece. Someone wrote a good comparsion. Titans OHK my Stormcaller, while my super takes about 4sec to kill them. Stormcaller needs a damage buff.
Idc about armor or health regen, the Stormcaller ttk is just way to high. People have ages to counter me.
Edit 4:
We all know you have to wear a chestpiece... Not a big deal. Regular perk on almost every chestpiece nowadays. It's not like you're sacrificing anything.
We also know that you have to spec health regen. So what? Not a big deal if it does what it does...
Edit 5:
Also Sleeper Simulant is no acceptable solution. See Black Spindle...
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9 RepliesEdited by TheKumarEffect: 10/5/2015 4:37:37 PMBlade dancer got nerfed twice and it was never as strong as a sunbreaker so enjoy it while you can Titans
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I wa going ham in a mayhem earlier and got 23 kills, after the game I was called a camper.. Lie.. What?? In sorry how can you camp with a sunbreaker :D I'd have to get lucky for someone to walk round to corner ... Lol sunbreakers are fineeee
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Sunbreakers are fine. They're not a god. They can certainly be killed. A striker in mid super almost can't be killed. I hammered a striker in mid FoH execution and he didn't die. Same with a radiant warlock. These may be exceptions to the rule. I don't know. But it's still the case.
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As a titan I agree with your edit. Reduce the armor. Three hammers like golden gun would be to much. But just make the titan killable if he is being reckless
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54 RepliesE-spear, erine, black hammer, black spindle can all 1 shot a sunbreaker with max armor and the additional armor they get with a chest piece. Most people should have either the e spear or BH by now. Erine is currently available to order from banshee till wensday. and the black spindle mission has been up twice now. Pro tip you don't need to be able to one hit snipe all supers for them to be considered "balanced." Running away is a viable tactic. People say it isn't because they believe they always need to kill and win against a super. using other supers to counter a super is a viable tactic. I mean shadow shot literally exists to do so. sunbreaker has downsides just like every other super. You can down play them. I'll just ignore you. Back when golden gun was considered OP and "100% 3 kills everytime" people like me advocated saying "but no damage resistance" and always got told that it doesn't matter because a good player wouldn't need it. The only reason why sunbreaker is an issue right now is because people haven't "gotten good" and learned how to outplay it yet. And are butthurt that some of the usual methods don't work. or that their current gear isn't good enough. (LDR, stillpiercer, 100 yard etc) imo if you want to one bang the most tanky super in the game you should have to sacrifice gear slots in some way. But i'll type out ways to one bang them: ~34+ impact snipers ~night hawk ~shotguns with top impact (like conspiracy and felwinters not party crasher) ~nova bomb ~fist of havoc ~solar sword heavy attack ~bolt caster heavy attack ~perigrine greaves TLDR there are plenty of ways to either one shot them or heavily counter them. They are just downplayed because people expect to walk around and take down supers like they are push overs. I'm a hunter main so i'm not biased. Also I agree it's strong. and that benefit wise it has more upsides then other supers. But it is the way to make hammer of sol usable. Golden gun is far easier to use and does much more damage. the only thing holding it back is no damage resist. Which tbh doesn't matter because a seasoned slinger like myself can walk into a room and get a triple with out taking much damage anyway. Did you know you can use your sword to block a hammer of sol and live? Did you know most slaying supers if they run max armor can tank a single hammer? Pretty sure you can with a warlock nova bomb as well. fist of havoc can. and the defender bubble takes like 4-5 hammers to drop. I bet half of you don't know hammer of sol if specced right can take 2 gg shots and live.
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27 RepliesEdited by TeddyBundy: 10/5/2015 6:01:16 PMAny mobile super should be canceled with a Shotgun+Melee Combo, a Golden Gun shot or a medium/high impact sniper headshot. Anything else is op. Fist of Havok/Novabomb: Low risk, low reward. Golden Gun/Bladedance: High risk, high reward. Bubble/Radiance/Shadowshot: Sitational supportive supers. Hammer of Sol/Stormtrance: Low risk, high reward. Low risk, high reward = OP.
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Ok and let's give Titans decent grenades and ability recharge abilitys that don't require a full super
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29 RepliesNope. Titans can't ever have the recovery the warlocks can nor can they ever have the base walking and straffing speed or evasive abilities the hunters can. Titans get the highest armor Warlocks get the most recovery Hunters get the most agility. That should be reflected in their supers and it is when you compare sunbreaker, storm trance, and blade dancer.
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I would much more prefer all other supers being buffed.
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I'm ok with it now as a hunter. I think of it like Titan is a super Saiyan, and you can't head shot a super Saiyan goku
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16 RepliesWhat i don't get is that a bladedancer has less damage resistance than a ranged super
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3 RepliesCheck out stormcaller skill tree Realize ita more about overall usage than super Checks out HoS skill tree Realize perks are all about the super Realize the difference
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7 RepliesCan you -blam!-ing idiots who don't know shit about balance in any aspect stop trying to ruin this game? I enjoy it until you -blam!-ing whiners get killed one too many times and cry until its how you like it. Please and thank you.
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You know what? Ive been getting back in to pvp, and I honestly dont see the big deal with sun breakers. Ive killed a lot, been killed a lot but I dont ever sit there and say "wow that was cheap" What I do see more often than not is people who HEAR the damn super go off amd run right at the titan... I promise you that these are the same idiots that are crying for a nerf. I digress... if I have my super (storm trance) I can kill a titan, ionic blink gives me the edge and I love it. My buddy tobi, runs night stalker, with quiver and when he hears it he just popps his super in the area he is most likely coming from and usually shuts down the super easily.
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I actually managed to kill a sunbreaker with a headshot, it was the final round in my ldr
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10 RepliesEdited by uknownsoulja: 10/5/2015 10:05:18 AMOh no i'm a whiny bitch that can't handle adversity. my parents also have to give me gifts on my siblings bday so i wont throw a temper tantrum. [spoiler]-blam!- millenials[/spoiler] Edit: so many butthurt self entitled dipshits lol
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All it takes is to get rid of the "enemies killed regenerate health" and replace with "kills with HoS increase its duration"
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3 RepliesWell titan are titans born to be tank so for me its normal that they can tank headshots [spoiler]this comes from a hunter btw[/spoiler]
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This is how you kill a sunbreaker
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3 RepliesBlade dancer shit has been OP for over a year, how dare you.
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2 RepliesI don't know what the problem is, I ran the crucible yesterday and I didn't have any problems taking down sunbreaker as long as they weren't focusing on me. And that's pretty much the norm with people's supers, if you're their focus, your most likely gonna die.
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Yup that's fair
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I don't understand people when they complain about sun breaker, yea it has an ability that lets you regen health, yes it has the ability to have an over shield, no they cannot be used at the same time. You can say Titan has an over shield but he has to stay in the sunspot. Get out of line of sight. I don't know about other Titans but if I've killed everyone around me, I'm looking at my radar to find the next one. Maybe try crouching? Yes Titans can heal but I rock full armor and have been sniped at full health because I did not have my over shield perk used, because I was using my healing one. If Titans had an over shield and could heal then they would be overpowered but since you can't have both active at the same time I think they are fine. Any thoughts?
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I got head shotted out of my super by some douche with efrideets spear last night
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I think All of the classes except radiant skin warlock should be able to be killed with one shot from a high impact sniper. (Benevolence, LDR) Most of the classes have killing power while warlock is selecting that perk to make them more tanky.
