Understand your point and I've tried this and so have many others I would assume. But when you spend hours trying and people get bored, leave it's back to square one. I'm quite happy to put the hours in but a few tips and pointers from gamers already completed them helps. I'm not asking people to do it for me, or others just asking for a few pointers. Although your reply is agreeable it was exactly the answer I expected, go learn yourself, we did, thanks!

[quote] Although your reply is agreeable it was exactly the answer I expected, go learn yourself, we did, thanks![/quote] I was just being honest. I have helped 100's learn raids over the last few years. There are also days I just want to get the raid done.

I know pal, I would be the same some days if I knew how to do them. I will slog on and put the hours in, I didn't mean to come across all negative with my reply it just made me laugh because I knew someone would put it, just didn't expect it to be the first reply.

Send a friend request, I will see if I can help some time. What is the raid you are most trying to get done?

I have killed Crota, some of the WofM some parts of glass, and various parts of others but then people jump out and leave you hanging. Nearly through them just frustrating not getting to finish. Will sort friend request out later, thanks not asking you take me through it all just a few pointers to make things easier, like order of killing things, where best to stand etc etc.

https://www.bungie.net/en/Forum/Post/226721639/0/0 Found this thread. Group looking to run the raids. I will be looking for the friend request.

Like I said, send request. I will see if I or my clan could help give you what you are looking for. And maybe at the same time, prove that there are still good people playing the game. Maybe get them all done over the next week. Send friend request to gmsieb

And there in lies the problem. Many in your position are expecting and wanting to be carried. They lie and get into raids on hard mode challenge and waste the time of many raiders. This is what has chased many more experienced raiders away from helping. These are the people, that someone like you should be looking at. Again, from what I have seen, most want to learn on hard mode challenge and get the high end loot. They should instead go build a team and beat normal 4-5 times, then go try hard mode. Then go try hard mode challenge. But they don't, they try to go from strikes to hard mode challenge. Like going from pop warner to the nfl. It doesn't go well. All that said, there are still many out there helping, I see it, in game, every week. I also see posts for it, both on lfg and the forums. Unlike you, most don't want to put in the work. They just want to aim high, fail, and then blame people for not helping them. These are the people hurting your experience.