I sherpa WotM as much as I can. I love showing people aksis CM and it always reminds me of the first time I did it. Love doing that raid. But you must understand that some people just don't have time to waste to sherpa or "be patient". There are some helpful sherpas out there

It's because the person who posted is pressed for time and wants a fast run. So he will say "Must know" or "fast run" Teams with a lot of time and just want a chill team will say "chill team". Did you really not know what these mean?

The game is nearly 3 years old and destiny 2 comes out in less then 3 months. There's countless videos to help you online. Why on earth should someone else's procrastination and laziness be another persons problem. I know that sounds mean and I'm happy to carry someone through most content. But, comeeeeee on, help yourself people geez!

I've seen so many posts asking for people to do Crota or Aksis etc and it's actually off-putting when all I see is "know what to do or get kicked".. like many of you have said, they started doing raids without any help or carries. But as someone who's tried Kings Fall before in a fireteam, they just left me behind considering they genuinely said they'd help me through it! I'm starting to give up on trying completing the quests so I can do more on the game.

Just make your own post and explain your situation. I've played since launch but never really raided due to time constraints and not many online friends. I'm trying to get through all the raids before D2 and I haven't had a bad group yet. I just post that I have not ran the Raid before and looking for patient people or help. So far I have made it through Crota(full Raid set), got to aksis, and defeated Warpriest. The raids can take a long time doing it this way but you really get to learn them and are a lot of fun. I wished started raiding sooner.

Its because these raids were out for a while, so unless you just started, you should know how to do them

Frankly there is a lot of information on the raids now. I am no expert but I have gotten 178 Raid completions done. Here are some tips that may help you and it's what I did before I began raiding. <OnSoapBox> 1) Do your homework. Watch a Raid video or two by average gamers (not the kill Crota in 1 sword or Askis dead in 1 phase etc. ones). Read a description or two of the Raid mechanics and suggested loadouts (weapons and armor) for them. Then your not completely blind to how the raid works and what to expect. 2) Bring the right stuff. If you did your homework step, you won't show up with an unleveled up hand cannon, a shotgun and a Sword as your best weapons to a Crota Raid for example. You bring appropriate weapons (each Raid is somewhat different or has different phases, so if your unsure asks someone in the raid) and have all your Gear leveled up too. Almost every raid needs a longer range primary, a sniper and ranged Heavy at a minimum. Make sure you have at least 20 heavy and special ammo synths on your character and preferably more in the vault ready to be transferred if needed. 3) Learn to walk before running. Do the raid on normal BEFORE you even try doing it on Hard or Challenge modes. People doing hard or challenge mode are far less likely to carry people than on normal, however some Raids (like Crota) are more forgiving than others. Many people are now bored with the game and are likely to offer to Sherpa people through on normal. Also, don't LIE in your LFG post about having done the raid before. They can look your gamer tag up in an instant and you will get booted. If your honest and have done your homework and have okay gear, they are more likely to take you with them. 4) Listen more than you speak. If the Raid leader or Sherpa is talking don't interrupt until they are done. Secondly listen to what they are saying on how to do stuff and what loadout to use. If your not sure what your doing ask questions after they have explained things. 5) Don't waste peoples time. It is not acceptable to suddenly say "I have to eat supper" and disappear for 30+ minutes or "I need to go to the store" or "My weed dealer and I need to smoke 3 bowls now" or whatever time wasting excuse. Allow sufficient time to get the raid done without interruption, realizing that because you have not done it before, your going to make mistakes. Expecting the Raid to run perfectly and take 20 minutes to complete is unrealistic. 6) Communication is Key. One of the biggest issues is not communicating meaningfully to your team mates. Don't be babbling about extraneous stuff like what you want for supper etc. when your actively doing a section of the raid, it's disruptive. Secondly, being a silent lump does nothing for the team either. Depending on the raid, you may need to call things out, such as Jumping on Platform 2, I'm Torn, Slammed Askis, Slammed Plate, I'm on Venus or Damage phase. etc., make sure you do this. Lastly, if your assigned a task and you could not get it done, tell someone and ask for help. A classic example is when I was doing Oryx as a Hunter and up on a Plate. In hard mode plate people have to kill the orb eating knights. The knight I was to kill never appeared and I got killed on a platform by the ship while waiting for it to appear, because the guy across from me killed mine and his, but never said anything. Soon afterwards, I missed a head shot on my knight and had to get off the plate early (had a very fast Relic Runner). I immediately called it out that we had a crippled Orb knight on the loose in the back and one of the Titans in the middle killed it as I ran to the middle. No shame in failing or being over run, but there is if you can't communicate this information to your team so they can react to it before it becomes an issue leading to a fail. </OffSoapBox> Best of Luck.

The thing that bugs me is they put #newbieswelcome. The you open the post it says must know what your doing. Be 400 light. Run these weapons have this emblem. Doesn't that defeat the purpose of #newbieswelcome?????

People that need to learn COULD do what we all did. We built a team on day one and did the raid. We put the time in to learning it. No one carried or taught us, we had to spend the hours to beat it. Sometimes newer players get help, sometimes, they need to help themselves. If a new player can't find a team to teach them they should build a team of noobs, watch a video and go practice on normal.

Quit complaining and create your own fireteam with your own stipulations...

By doing the same ad the players you are complaining about. Doing the raid on normal until you know the mechanics. Doing the raid on hard to further learn what to do when. Doing the 390 raid when you have experience. No other raider OWES you anything. A little self help goes a long way. Have fun and may RNG be forever in your favor.

I have no problem whatsoever helping people learn the raid or some aspect of the game. But a lot of times I don't have the time to sit there and do it and would rather just get through the raid. Which is why a lot of times anymore I just specifically run them with my group. Granted some people put that in their games because they don't like the headache of dealing with someone that doesn't know the mechanics or having someone that's incapable of learning.

I made this point a few weeks back. Hopefully you get less backlash

Id love to Sherpa. If I had the time, skill and experience and the gosh dang hezen gloves. Edit: also, you gotta try normal first. Don't go piling into hard mode. As well as watch datto!! Look video guides. Then you will know what to do. If your gonna raid, you gotta put in time to actually learn it. Learning by doing does not work in this situation. Watch a video several times. Go over it several times. Make sure you know what's going on at all times. That's what people don't like. If someone joins in expecting a carry, a free pass. Or even a long explanation. Well don't. Just put effort into learning and memorizing it first. Had someone in kings fall join in expecting for us to explain it to him On 390 hard mode. Challenge. And kings fall of all raids. He had made no effort. He looked at Oryx and said "ok guys we gotta take down the warpriest". You can also search parameters as noobs allowed. Or you can make a post saying guide needed.

I will always be happy to Sherpa add me if you are on ps4

Joined a group last night that said "know what to do" and "be experienced". Put on my challenge emblem and sent invite expecting to get Oryx done quickly. Joined party only to be told party leader had never done raid before...(sad trumpet) wah-wah.

Why do you dismiss any response suggesting you practice on normal, watch a video to learn the mechanics, or run it blind with other new players?