Yeah I get it. They still are doing things that PS4 just wrecks them with their policies. Xbox live still needed for netflix, partychat, pretty much everything. I have an Xbox 360 and I never use it anymore because I can't talk to my friends because my Xbox live ran out. I'm so glad I have a Blu-Ray player that can use Netflix, or I'd be much more angry. They have to do much more than what they've done to win everybody back, but I know I'm never going back this generation. PS4 got all my JRPGs and exclusive Destiny content.