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11/13/2023 8:44:48 AM
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[quote]I love Hierarchy but the main thing is that it doesn't feel good to use. For me, it feels like the draw speed is so slow and clunky when uncharged. It feels slower than even WishEnder, which actually has the slowest draw time. The only time it feels nice is when it's charged, other than that, it feels horrible to use compared to WishEnder when ad clearing in GMs, which is where this clunkiness feeling feels more prominent. Yes, I know some may justify WishEnder is essentially a sniper because of its damage/perk that's why it feels better but that's not the point. The tempo and feel of the draw speed are ruined whenever you are uncharged, which feels prominent when returning down from charge. It doesn't feel like Archer's Tempo where you feel speedy with the buff, here you feel sluggish without the buff. I propose either buffing its uncharged draw time even if it comes with lesser damage or equalise the draw time for both charged and uncharged.[/quote] You wrote this entire post without having the catalyst
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  • [quote][quote]I love Hierarchy but the main thing is that it doesn't feel good to use. For me, it feels like the draw speed is so slow and clunky when uncharged. It feels slower than even WishEnder, which actually has the slowest draw time. The only time it feels nice is when it's charged, other than that, it feels horrible to use compared to WishEnder when ad clearing in GMs, which is where this clunkiness feeling feels more prominent. Yes, I know some may justify WishEnder is essentially a sniper because of its damage/perk that's why it feels better but that's not the point. The tempo and feel of the draw speed are ruined whenever you are uncharged, which feels prominent when returning down from charge. It doesn't feel like Archer's Tempo where you feel speedy with the buff, here you feel sluggish without the buff. I propose either buffing its uncharged draw time even if it comes with lesser damage or equalise the draw time for both charged and uncharged.[/quote] You wrote this entire post without having the catalyst[/quote] Wait he doesn't?! It feels very incomplete without it.

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  • [quote][quote][quote]I love Hierarchy but the main thing is that it doesn't feel good to use. For me, it feels like the draw speed is so slow and clunky when uncharged. It feels slower than even WishEnder, which actually has the slowest draw time. The only time it feels nice is when it's charged, other than that, it feels horrible to use compared to WishEnder when ad clearing in GMs, which is where this clunkiness feeling feels more prominent. Yes, I know some may justify WishEnder is essentially a sniper because of its damage/perk that's why it feels better but that's not the point. The tempo and feel of the draw speed are ruined whenever you are uncharged, which feels prominent when returning down from charge. It doesn't feel like Archer's Tempo where you feel speedy with the buff, here you feel sluggish without the buff. I propose either buffing its uncharged draw time even if it comes with lesser damage or equalise the draw time for both charged and uncharged.[/quote] You wrote this entire post without having the catalyst[/quote] Wait he doesn't?! It feels very incomplete without it.[/quote] It was missing from the whole post and they kept talking about draw speed

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  • Bearbeitet von Schmuck: 11/13/2023 6:01:32 PM
    I talked about charged and uncharged draw speed. What else do i mean if it's not from the masterwork bonus? If my English is bad, then I'm sorry

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  • Bearbeitet von Gilgamesh: 11/13/2023 6:02:48 PM
    [quote]I talked about charged and uncharged draw speed. What else do i mean if it's not from the masterwork bonus?[/quote] Because the catalyst gives it the fastest draw speed in the game? And charged shot can easily mean a perfectly drawn bow and uncharged can be spaming the bow Thats what people almost always mean by “charged/uncharged” considering spamming the bow is a viable strategy because of the guidance ring

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  • Bearbeitet von Schmuck: 11/13/2023 6:04:55 PM
    And that wasn't my gripe Edit: post is edited after reply

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  • [quote]And that wasn't my gripe Edit: post is edited after reply[/quote] Post wasn’t edited after your reply, i added something immediately after writing it because I thought it lacked. You just responded immediately with 5 words

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  • [quote][quote]And that wasn't my gripeEdit: post is edited after reply[/quote] Post wasn’t edited after your reply, i added something immediately after writing it because I thought it lacked. You just responded immediately with 5 words[/quote] Yeah, and it had more context for me to infer differently so essentially my reply is useless because it was based on a different interpretation of mine, so I'm sorry

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  • [quote][quote][quote]And that wasn't my gripeEdit: post is edited after reply[/quote] Post wasn’t edited after your reply, i added something immediately after writing it because I thought it lacked. You just responded immediately with 5 words[/quote] Yeah, and it had more context for me to infer differently so essentially my reply is useless because it was based on a different interpretation of mine, so I'm sorry[/quote] Idrc you did it yourself and complained about me doing it

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  • Bearbeitet von Gilgamesh: 11/13/2023 6:03:34 PM
    [quote]And that wasn't my gripe[/quote] The first and second paragraphs of your post literally talk about its draw speed As well as the final

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  • Bearbeitet von Schmuck: 11/13/2023 6:11:55 PM
    [quote][quote]And that wasn't my gripe[/quote] The first and second paragraphs of your post literally talk about its draw speed As well as the final[/quote] Alright, if my english is absurdly terrible, then let me try again. The difference between the baseline draw time vs the Apollonic masterwork draw time is too vast, resulting in ruined tempo coming back down to the baseline draw time, resulting in a sluggish feel to the rhythm of the baseline draw time, making the weapon feel very slow when not having Apollonic masterwork buff. Or do I still suck at explaining myself?

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  • [quote][quote][quote]And that wasn't my gripe[/quote] The first and second paragraphs of your post literally talk about its draw speed As well as the final[/quote] Alright, if my english is absurdly terrible, then let me try again. The difference between the baseline draw time vs the Apollonic masterwork draw time is too vast, resulting in ruined tempo coming back down to the baseline draw time, resulting in a sluggish feel to the rhythm of the baseline draw time, making the weapon feel very slow when not having Apollonic masterwork buff. Or do I still suck at explaining myself?[/quote] You still suck at explaining yourself, i have over 10k kills with the bow you are making a gripe from nothing, it requires 3 headshots (leading to kills which isn’t hard) and you practically have the fastest firing/best ad clear and damage bow in the game that is also self sustaining There is no “tempo” for this bow unless you have some disorder that debilitates you if you do something that isn’t repetitive. Ive seen people make complaints about the ring itself but never the most powerful part of this bow its draw speed

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  • [quote]The tempo and feel of the draw speed are ruined whenever you are uncharged, which feels prominent when returning down from charge. It doesn't feel like Archer's Tempo where you feel speedy with the buff, here you feel sluggish without the buff.[/quote] If I may quote the original post. All the more power to you if you're not affected by the tempo change but I recently made a small run farming ads in the first section in the Grasp of Avaric. I cannot emphasise how much my feel of the gun gets ruined. Starting off uncharged it feels like a regular long drawtime bow, I occasionally miss a microsecond off the full draw. But once I kick things off with the Guidance Ring it gets really speedy, then once I drop, I continuously miss the full draw by a large margin and frequently. It feels drastically slow, slower than WishEnder by feel but as I said before: [quote]It feels slower than even WishEnder, which actually has the slowest draw time[/quote] Skill issue me if you want, it don't feel right.

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  • [quote][quote]The tempo and feel of the draw speed are ruined whenever you are uncharged, which feels prominent when returning down from charge. It doesn't feel like Archer's Tempo where you feel speedy with the buff, here you feel sluggish without the buff.[/quote] If I may quote the original post. All the more power to you if you're not affected by the tempo change but I recently made a small run farming ads in the first section in the Grasp of Avaric. I cannot emphasise how much my feel of the gun gets ruined. Starting off uncharged it feels like a regular long drawtime bow, I occasionally miss a microsecond off the full draw. But once I kick things off with the Guidance Ring it gets really speedy, then once I drop, I continuously miss the full draw by a large margin and frequently. It feels drastically slow, slower than WishEnder by feel but as I said before: [quote]It feels slower than even WishEnder, which actually has the slowest draw time[/quote] Skill issue me if you want, it don't feel right.[/quote] How the hell are you missing a micro-second off full draws they are not a pitch perfect things You are making a gripe from nothing because you suck with the bow, how can you keep saying it has the slowest draw time. And Wish-Ender doesn’t have the slowest draw time Lev Breath does

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  • Bearbeitet von Schmuck: 11/13/2023 12:07:48 PM
    What? I do have it EDIT: It's literally why I state charge vs uncharge draw speed. I logged into my game and do a quick check and yes, I have the masterwork and it's the only thing that decreases the draw time.

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  • Bruh imma be real w/ you I wouldn’t spend the time arguing with this guy. He’s pretty rude in like 99% of his replies, it’s not like anything constructive is gonna happen. He acts kinda like the character he named his profile after, minus the whole calling everyone except the tomboy he simps for a mongrel lmao Besides most people would agree that hierarchy has some problems, it was even like that on its release

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  • [quote]What? I do have it EDIT: It's literally why I state charge vs uncharge draw speed. I logged into my game and do a quick check and yes, I have the masterwork and it's the only thing that decreases the draw time.[/quote] Hypocrite You complain after i “edit my message after you write something” yet do it yourself

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