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6/26/2021 4:55:55 PM
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Riiiiight. Meanwhile all warlocks...nerf hunter movement...it is too much. And then hunter movement abilities got nerfed 30+ times. But nooooo...when its warlocks turn we shouldnt do that for some reason. The irony.
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  • Hmmm let's see: Warlocks - 1/10 subclasses with great mobility. (upcoming nerf to change this) Titans - 1/10 subclasses with great mobility. (recent nerf has diluted this) Hunters - 10/10 subclasses with great mobility. But please, go on...

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  • Hunter has 0 /10 with great mobility. But please go on. Also..blink means 3/10 for warlock has great mobility. Shoulder charge means 3/10 for titan have great mobility not tied to a cooldown.

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  • Are you seriously going to add in blink and shoulder charge, all while completely omitting the 11 second, instantaneous lateral movement-get out of jail-do half my job double pressing one button spam- dodge?!?! Wow. 0/10? You are ridiculous.

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  • Its 27- 30 seconds for base dodge cooldown.. Mobility stat is useless. Recovery is the best stat. After that discipline or intellect. Last 2 are mobility and resilience. So yeah..i am counting blink....with its 4x the range of dodge teleport.

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  • now i know why you think hunters suck, you think mobility is useless.

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  • Mobility increases strafe speed, vertical jump height and forward momentum from your jump on top of reducing Shadestep cooldown to around 15 seconds. How is it useless? Blink is only decently usable with the Astrocyte and that doesn't even fix half the problems Blink has such as your hitbox staying behind while you're 30ft away from your initial jump spot or the oddity that exists where you can't melee for a good 2-5 seconds after you come out of a blink. Top Dawnblade is the Warlocks only high mobility class in the game and the only one with Icarus Dash. Meanwhile Hunters have "get out of jail free card" on every class and mega bunny hop on every class. The ease of use is also on your side, as most people still site the Warlock jump as being the main reason why they can't use that class as effectively as they can a Hunter or Titan.

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  • Hitbox doesnt stay behind ...has been tested a lot. Also...it only increases initial jump height...

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  • So did they finally fix the Hitbox lag because it was really bad during Forsaken.

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  • Yes...ages ago.

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  • Mobility isn’t useless and yes it has its purpose. Warlocks who don’t use icarus dash are almost useless since half the time they just get shot out the air. But everyone just complains about dodging. It’s only about dodging and jumping. Well. Hunters have the worst jump. That being said, it’s the easiest to use. Without stompees, it doesn’t go as high or as far as the other classes potentially can. I agree, hunters are abusing icarus grip and stompees and it’s annoying. But don’t sit there and complain about my dodge. In D1 I ran the exotic TO GET shade step and I mastered it in that game. Sure dodging is an easy escape but it’s also easy to know exactly where that dodge goes in open warfare. Dodging a specific direction is given away by the animation alone. It’s not that hard to stop shooting for a split second and find my direction. I have to do it for other hunters. I have to do it for icarus dash. I’m not gonna sit here and complain about a dodge because I could’ve won a gun fight. If you allow a hunter to dodge and get behind you somehow, that’s on you not the game.

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  • Bearbeitet von WulfPak666: 6/26/2021 8:02:35 PM
    "If you allow a Hunter to dodge and get behind you that's on you and not the game." Considering every weapon requires constant time on time to kill someone, unless you are either a god (or Aimbot) sniper or a masterful shotgun ape a Hunter can and will always dodge out of gun fights or away from a mistake they made even if you are landing your hits without missing. I'm not gonna complain for getting out played if they can get behind me but being able to make a huge mistake and easily just "undo" that by tapping a button is incredibly advantageous that no other class has. That's the game and that's how it's played. You also didn't have to use an exotic (graviton forfeit) to have shadestep, so if you limited yourself to that exotic, that's on you. People just used that because it gave you shadestep for free meaning you could also have another perk active from the same tree on Nightstalker, usually Keen scout for enhanced radar.

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  • My dude I ain’t using an exotic now. If you read at all the post, I was speaking in D1 terms when it was an exotic perk. You know, before people complained about it since hunter got the “best” class ability. They got the least situational ability. It’s useful anywhere. I’ve been killed during a dodge. I’ve killed warlocks during their icarus dash. If you can see that the hunter is dodging backwards, shoot there. If you see them blitz one direction depending on the dodge, you can follow it. I’ve had a ton of times where dodging has cornered me. A ton of times where I die mid dodge. It’s not the hardest thing to see the gambler dodge where they get their melee back, they dip onto the floor. If it’s marksman dodge, then keep aiming at the head, it’s not going far. Play the damn class and learn it. Go play hunter and don’t dodge. Good luck man.

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  • Bearbeitet von WulfPak666: 6/26/2021 8:21:45 PM
    I know you were speaking D1, which is why I said why people used that exotic. It gave you shadestep without needing to select it in the skill tree so you could use something else. I know shadestep isn't the be all end all of pvp but it is very good and especially when paired with certain mods and exotics, it's outrageously better. I do play all 3 classes so I do play the Hunter, especially during Iron Banner and I can say it is a very fun class to use. I find being a shotgun douche bag is easier with a Hunter... Chappy + Spectral Blade is laughably broken as hell. Slide, get headshot, get walhacks and turn invis...or camp with a 120 and chain headshots and invis wallhacks... Who thought this was ok? 🤷 The only thing more absurd than that is instant killing entire teams capping a zone with Dunemarches or Synthocepts.

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