Hawkmoon and No Time to Explain are literally just 2 exotics, out of a whole expansion, and the Cosmodrome is not even a selling point. It’s just a free destination.

Its like how people think TTK was better than forsaken all nostalgia 👀 [spoiler]I'm just playing. Imo forsaken is better I'm up to debate[/spoiler]

Look man, Bungie is a premium developer who adds a premium price for their work because it's premium. You aren't supposed to complain about remastered and reskinned content because it's [b]Bungie's[/b] content! 😂 Ok, ok, sarcasm over (although, I really do think they believe some of that...)

[i]I love to watch you come....but I hate to see you leave. Come see me more guardians~ Forever your eververse [/i] 😏😈

[quote]It seems like every release and every seasonal cycle we’re getting some from of recycled content, whether it be from D1 or the early years of D2. It blows my mind how much this happens and even more so how much people eat it up. IMO - it’s lazy, plain and simple. Becoming more invested in this game, spending more time playing and familiarity myself with the “culture” around it has really put a sour taste in my mouth for Bungie. I can’t think of another consumer experience where customers (bc that’s what we are) are constantly sold the same recycled shit over and over and are expected to be excited about it. If you really take the time to look at the list of weapons and content it’s staggering. Why is Bungie able to keep doing this? Why don’t we demand more from a company that we keep in business? Why is no one else talking about this? Some examples from the list that goes on forever: Beyond light: Hawk moon Cosmodrome Vault of glass No time to explain Etc, etc Current weapons: Eye of sol -> revoker reskin -> blue sniper reskin Recluse -> death adder reskin -> blue smg reskin (and now they skinned the reskin to sell this same pos smg to us again this season) Widows byte, distant tumulus, apostate, some random blue sniper (same as above, sold to us again this season) Lunas howl -> some blue HC reskin Summoner -> some blue auto reskin Every IB armor set is reused from early D2 or D1 Trials gear - reused Yay new dungeon, new loot right? Nope- shotgun, hand cannon, sniper, smg, armor - every single thing here is either repurposed or reskinned from previous content. AND to be clear all of these weapons should have been updated immediately once the new perks/mod scheme came out whenever that was, forsaken I think. Dire promise - re-release from early D2 Old fashioned - same as above Felwinters lie - D1 reissue. Last hope / last dance - early D2. Thorn, last word, bad juju, outbreak, whisper, hard light, Monte Carlo, queen breaker, telescope, sleeper, ace of spades, thunderlord, jade rabbit, truth, chaperone, 4th horseman The list goes on and on and on. I understand that some legendary variations are built off of blue / green weapons but still this is a lot. Exclude those from the list if you want, the point still stands. I understand the appeal of nostalgia and wanting weapons from the past but if they’re going to sell us a new game then they really should give us new things and with that I would expect 90% or more to be an acceptable ratio of new vs reissue, but that doesn’t feel like that case. Then the reissue would actually mean something, not like now where it’s “what D1 weapon or armor are they going to sell back to us this time?” We, as consumers should demand more and we deserve more. Personally, I’ve sank nearly $300 in D2 since it’s release with season passes, DLCs, and an occasional silver bundle - all of which were done with little knowledge of D1 having played it here and there but nothing like D2. I won’t be spending another dime until we’re given a plan of what the future looks like. This is just bad, lazy, and passionless product development. Edit - spelling, sorry on mobile[/quote] Yeah all this stuff shoulda been on there the whole time a anyways.not milked out as releases

[quote]It seems like every release and every seasonal cycle we’re getting some from of recycled content, whether it be from D1 or the early years of D2. It blows my mind how much this happens and even more so how much people eat it up. IMO - it’s lazy, plain and simple. Becoming more invested in this game, spending more time playing and familiarity myself with the “culture” around it has really put a sour taste in my mouth for Bungie. I can’t think of another consumer experience where customers (bc that’s what we are) are constantly sold the same recycled shit over and over and are expected to be excited about it. If you really take the time to look at the list of weapons and content it’s staggering. Why is Bungie able to keep doing this? Why don’t we demand more from a company that we keep in business? Why is no one else talking about this? Some examples from the list that goes on forever: Beyond light: Hawk moon Cosmodrome Vault of glass No time to explain Etc, etc Current weapons: Eye of sol -> revoker reskin -> blue sniper reskin Recluse -> death adder reskin -> blue smg reskin (and now they skinned the reskin to sell this same pos smg to us again this season) Widows byte, distant tumulus, apostate, some random blue sniper (same as above, sold to us again this season) Lunas howl -> some blue HC reskin Summoner -> some blue auto reskin Every IB armor set is reused from early D2 or D1 Trials gear - reused Yay new dungeon, new loot right? Nope- shotgun, hand cannon, sniper, smg, armor - every single thing here is either repurposed or reskinned from previous content. AND to be clear all of these weapons should have been updated immediately once the new perks/mod scheme came out whenever that was, forsaken I think. Dire promise - re-release from early D2 Old fashioned - same as above Felwinters lie - D1 reissue. Last hope / last dance - early D2. Thorn, last word, bad juju, outbreak, whisper, hard light, Monte Carlo, queen breaker, telescope, sleeper, ace of spades, thunderlord, jade rabbit, truth, chaperone, 4th horseman The list goes on and on and on. I understand that some legendary variations are built off of blue / green weapons but still this is a lot. Exclude those from the list if you want, the point still stands. I understand the appeal of nostalgia and wanting weapons from the past but if they’re going to sell us a new game then they really should give us new things and with that I would expect 90% or more to be an acceptable ratio of new vs reissue, but that doesn’t feel like that case. Then the reissue would actually mean something, not like now where it’s “what D1 weapon or armor are they going to sell back to us this time?” We, as consumers should demand more and we deserve more. Personally, I’ve sank nearly $300 in D2 since it’s release with season passes, DLCs, and an occasional silver bundle - all of which were done with little knowledge of D1 having played it here and there but nothing like D2. I won’t be spending another dime until we’re given a plan of what the future looks like. This is just bad, lazy, and passionless product development. Edit - spelling, sorry on mobile[/quote] Hopefully they won't have a flashback of the flashback.each season were grinding to get same stuff back to cap and that's bs.i think if 1energy shotty is up to 1060 they all should hit 1060 same with every type armor and guntype.each season we gotta grind one of each type.thatd be acceptable.

[quote]It seems like every release and every seasonal cycle we’re getting some from of recycled content, whether it be from D1 or the early years of D2. It blows my mind how much this happens and even more so how much people eat it up. IMO - it’s lazy, plain and simple. Becoming more invested in this game, spending more time playing and familiarity myself with the “culture” around it has really put a sour taste in my mouth for Bungie. I can’t think of another consumer experience where customers (bc that’s what we are) are constantly sold the same recycled shit over and over and are expected to be excited about it. If you really take the time to look at the list of weapons and content it’s staggering. Why is Bungie able to keep doing this? Why don’t we demand more from a company that we keep in business? Why is no one else talking about this? Some examples from the list that goes on forever: Beyond light: Hawk moon Cosmodrome Vault of glass No time to explain Etc, etc Current weapons: Eye of sol -> revoker reskin -> blue sniper reskin Recluse -> death adder reskin -> blue smg reskin (and now they skinned the reskin to sell this same pos smg to us again this season) Widows byte, distant tumulus, apostate, some random blue sniper (same as above, sold to us again this season) Lunas howl -> some blue HC reskin Summoner -> some blue auto reskin Every IB armor set is reused from early D2 or D1 Trials gear - reused Yay new dungeon, new loot right? Nope- shotgun, hand cannon, sniper, smg, armor - every single thing here is either repurposed or reskinned from previous content. AND to be clear all of these weapons should have been updated immediately once the new perks/mod scheme came out whenever that was, forsaken I think. Dire promise - re-release from early D2 Old fashioned - same as above Felwinters lie - D1 reissue. Last hope / last dance - early D2. Thorn, last word, bad juju, outbreak, whisper, hard light, Monte Carlo, queen breaker, telescope, sleeper, ace of spades, thunderlord, jade rabbit, truth, chaperone, 4th horseman The list goes on and on and on. I understand that some legendary variations are built off of blue / green weapons but still this is a lot. Exclude those from the list if you want, the point still stands. I understand the appeal of nostalgia and wanting weapons from the past but if they’re going to sell us a new game then they really should give us new things and with that I would expect 90% or more to be an acceptable ratio of new vs reissue, but that doesn’t feel like that case. Then the reissue would actually mean something, not like now where it’s “what D1 weapon or armor are they going to sell back to us this time?” We, as consumers should demand more and we deserve more. Personally, I’ve sank nearly $300 in D2 since it’s release with season passes, DLCs, and an occasional silver bundle - all of which were done with little knowledge of D1 having played it here and there but nothing like D2. I won’t be spending another dime until we’re given a plan of what the future looks like. This is just bad, lazy, and passionless product development. Edit - spelling, sorry on mobile[/quote] Heck yeah and also the so called (anti) random pinnacle drops.i got the same exact gun on hunter 2deops in a row then switch to warlock get boots 2times.same exact loot 2x twice.two times twice is a anti-random, AFTER USING ANTIBARRIER GOT ANTI LOOT.LOL I COULD JUST QUIT DOING THE ANTI PINNACLE,SO CALLED PINNACLE DROPS,(DRIPS).@LEAST DONT SET IT UP TO PURPOSELY GIVE US SAME SLOT DROPS 2/3TIMES.2SAME I EXACT AUTORIFLES OUT OF THOUSANDS OF ITEMS IS IMPOSSIBLE TO RANDOMLY GET BACK TO BACK..AMD IVE READ OTHER PEOPLE COMPLAINING ABOUT SAME ISSUES.1:2000/3000 ODDS.NAH I DONT BELIEVE ITS NOT A DIRTY LOOT SYSTEM.I KNOW IT IS.WE ALL DO

So the free D1 content is the selling point for the next DLC? How does that work?

Untill the scarab lord quits or gets fired. Expect this. Don’t give Bungie any more money.

All I know is that I’m taking a break and will probably be back in January