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Bearbeitet von Seth, Knower of Things:
7/29/2020 1:58:06 PM
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If you get to keep your armor forever, you won’t chase new armor more than once for the transmog drop. That’s called killing loot incentive. Besides just owning and hitting the 50-60 ranks on the season pass gives you a set of near max stat armor.
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Bearbeitet von A R G O: 7/29/2020 2:15:15 PMThis is simply not true, as long as they keep the mod system in its current iteration, you kinda have to chase new armor for new builds, whether those builds are worth pursuing or not, that depends on bungie. And I disagree, making your stuff useless can't be called "loot incentive", its not an incentive if you're being forced.
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Seasonal mod system is going away in Y4
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Can you link me to the info pl0x, I have not seen this. Anyway, this makes little to no sense, its just arbitrarily introducing a fix to something that did not need it, you already had something that fostered loot incentive on armor and then for shits and giggles now you're forcing people to change their armor even though there was no reason for it?. Sorry but this is no longer a defendable stance by bungie or anyone. You already had a system for that very reason and they -blam!-ed it up for no reason, fixing something that didn't need it.
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You don’t have to think the stance is defensible. But it’s Bungies decision at the end of the day. You don’t have to like it, hell you can quit over it for all I care. But either way, don’t act like something “indefensible” just because you don’t like it. Clearly theres a cause and reason for the change. And no I can’t find it as I’m out getting groceries and I’m not gonna spend 40 minutes in Kroger listening to the Dr Lupo interview to find the section where he talks about seasonal mods. Feel free to watch through it yourself I’m about 95% sure it’s mentioned there.
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Bearbeitet von A R G O: 7/29/2020 2:35:17 PMIf its not defensible, there's no reason behind it or cause for the change, at least not one based on anything that can be public and hence its not for the players, that's pretty simple. That its bungie's decision I don't think anyone argued against that or can for that matter, stating the obvious is not gonna change that, they could add porn the game and if they're dead set on that, of course that its their decision, is it defensible? No, but its going to happen if they decide to do so, doesn't mean players won't try to push back. So its in Dr. Lupo's interview with the scarab?.
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I think the reason behind it is bungie wants to sell transmog.
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Maybe, I hope that's not the case, because that would make the change even more indefensible, if that's even possible.
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[quote]If its not defensible, there's no reason behind it or cause for the change, at least not one based on anything that can be public, that's pretty simple. That its bungie's decision I don't think anyone argued against that or can for that matter, stating the obvious is not gonna change that, they could add porn the game and if they're dead set on that, of course that its their decision, is it defensible? No, but its going to happen if they decide to do so. So its Dr. Lupo's interview with the scarab?.[/quote] Should be that interview. Idk how porn on a video game is indefensible. Have you ever played mass effect? Regardless, I’ve explained Bungies reasoning. You don’t have to like it, but that’s their reasoning. That’s the position they are in fact defending. Again you don’t have to like it, but that doesn’t make it “indefensible”
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It was just an example, it could be anything else. You didn't explain any reasoning O_o, much less bungie's, it was just a bunch of guesswork and assumptions, unless you have some bungie insider. They're not defending anything, they're not talking, they're leaving up to their shills, which again just go with guesswork and assumptions most of the time.
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It’s because of the lack of loot incentive after you get that god rolled armor piece. With seasonal mods going away theres no real reason to use a old piece over an new one except the fact that one has a god roll. They’ve explained the change, I don’t think they need to explain much more than that. They elaborated on the sunsetting reasoning and it never quelled the complaining, so I doubt Bungie (as a whole) giving a statement on armor sunsetting would change much. Besides most of your hardcore audience (the people who watch all those streamers this forum hates) generally accept any change that leads to more playtime. And that’s who most of these changes are for. I don’t need a full blogpost to know what armor sunsetting is going to do, or my opinions on it.
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Bearbeitet von A R G O: 7/29/2020 2:56:34 PMThey're forcing a solution to something that was not a problem, like I said, the loot incentive was there, particularly for armor, mods were a reason for that and going for what you're saying, they're arbitrarily changing that for no reason, hence indefensible. I do think they need to explain their reasoning, but hey, to each their own, ultimately I agree with you its their call to do whatever they want with the game, I don't think anyone can argue against that, they could turn it into a barbie game and no matter how much people disagree with that and think its dumb, uncalled for, its shafts their players and bad for business, if they're dead set on doing so, it will happen. Sunsetting doesn't inherently give us more play time, that is a fallacy. Moreover, that its a big assumption, hardcore players differ a lot in their opinions, usually depending on their focus (PvE, PvP or somewhere in the middle), so much so that the community is usually pretty torn when it comes to big changes.
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You didn’t see the problems. I did. I didn’t go for season 9 or 10 armor because I didn’t need to. I literally deleted every item I received throughout all of seasons 9 and 10. The loot incentive was not there for me, after I got my god rolls I didn’t care about getting a couple fancy new mod slots. I didn’t care about getting a god rolled breachlight. I had my perfect setup and honestly I only changed it up this season. Why? Because sunsetting forced me to. Hell I still have a reason to log on every week as it is and I hit max level in week 3. Sunsetting will probably double the time I otherwise would’ve put into this season and future seasons.
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Bearbeitet von A R G O: 7/29/2020 3:11:20 PMDunno about you, but i just got a charged with light sweet setup Im using with my last hope and its pretty OP lol. Not everyone will want to do the same I did, you're proof of that and that's perfectly fine, but forcing people that don't want to, like you, for arbitrary reasons its just dumb and lazy. Sunsetting inherently doesn't mean more play time, no matter how you shake it.
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It wont just be for ornaments if along the way you find a better stat roll on an armor you can infuse that one and replaced the old. All i. Saying is no sunsetting on your armors and let us use any and all pieces of armors in the game as ornaments if we so choose to do so. It doesnt kill loot incentive and it negates the constant need to spend your hard on mats on sub par armor pieces. Like i said unless you are blessed by rng its really hard to find a specific roll for an armor piece before a season is concluded.
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[quote]It wont just be for ornaments if along the way you find a better stat roll on an armor you can infuse that one and replaced the old. All i. Saying is no sunsetting on your armors and let us use any and all pieces of armors in the game as ornaments if we so choose to do so. It doesnt kill loot incentive and it negates the constant need to spend your hard on mats on sub par armor pieces. Like i said unless you are blessed by rng its really hard to find a specific roll for an armor piece before a season is concluded.[/quote] But if you already have a god roll, that’s lasts forever. Why would you grind for another high stat rolled armor piece when you already have one? Looks don’t matter because transmog means you can take a look and put it into that god roll, again meaning you wouldn’t need to grind that armor more than once. Mats are a dime a dungeon. Just run PoH 3x a week and you get 18 prisms and 18 cores. And if you did that every reset until the next dlc, you’d make 270 of each.
