Direct quote on exotic sniper buff during SK.
Sniper Rifles
PvE damage increased by +47% against minor enemies, +20% for others
Exotic sniper rifle perk damage bonuses have been modified to compensate for this change and they will not receive the full benefits as a result
So the question to Bungie is, “ are the exotic snipers getting a 20% reduction in damage along side of the legendary ones when the exotics never received the buff to begin with?”
Because if so, they WILL be LESS powerful than before SK.
It’s not a hard question but probably one Bungie won’t answer.
*edit* so whether you are for or against all or any part of the nerfs my main complaint is that Bungie drops a major change to weapons and once again goes dark. They wouldn’t even put TWAB on their own app and when the forums go crazy they are dead silent. Transparency and communication are severely lacking.
Nothing is more frustrating when we have to come to our own conclusions when the answer is already in their hands. Anyway, that’s my own opinion and how I feel.
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This is what they mostly do. They say what change is going to happen but not really clear reasons why. A lot of times we see nerfs being implemented that nobody has been asking for. Mostly it is because they don't want you to feel powerful and kill bosses faster than Bungie intended. Everytime a weapon melts bosses quick they will nerf it. But there will always be a weapon that will be the main weapon to be used on certain bosses. You can't keep nerfing these. PvE nerfs are hated mostly by the community but also some nerfs in crucible that nobody asked for are sometimes hated like for example the Last Word. Nobody has asked for it. It was a good weapon to counter shotgun rushers. It also needs more range than a side arm since it is a hand cannon. I am affraid that they are going to nerf it too much again that this exotic is going to be useless because legendary side arms are a better option which is just sad.
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Snipers need to be affected by flinch. Snipers are aids in pvp
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We're about two or three weeks away from the new Season. Just calm down and wait to see. There are more weapons than just snipers. Start testing out variety.
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Whisper with catalyst will still be god tier anyway. I don’t think we a getting rid of that anytime soon! Now buff sleeper?!!!!!
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Bungie- "we are nerfing snipers to encourage closer proximity in PvE engagement. *Boss-stomp. Everybody dies.* Bungie- "lol!"
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We hear you, and we are moving all snipers back to heavy slot. Enjoy your dual primaries. -Luke smith
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BUUFFFFF THE SLEEPER SIMULANT !!! Boss dps buff!!! Put DARCI in the special slot!!!!
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So the sniper nerf likely indicates the new boss will be a slow moving bullet sponge with a large crit spot. The nerf to the other weapons likely indicate there will be an annoying amount of ads. Nerfs are the only way bungle can set up a semi challenging boss fight. Since they basically gave up on making an actual difficult boss
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The TWAB is on the app, I read it on here when it was released. They just haven't linked it. It's always in the news section.
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Perhaps we won’t need snipers if the mighty Gjally makes it’s long awaited return 😬🤷♂️
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Honestly, the sniper nerf is the most telling aspect about Bungie's design philosophy: "We can't make unique encounters that favor close range fighting mechanics, so we'll just blame the playerbase for using what works and nerf it." Simply put, it seems they've grown a little content and arrogant about their product. Then again, the hardcore are still gonna keep -blam!- yet throwing money at the screen so who can blame Bungie for getting cocky?
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exotics didn’t get the 20% from Sk so they shouldn’t be nerfed
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This is exactly why I've continued to say you guys have overreacted and not looked at all the facts. Previously when they buffed them in SK the notes clearly said their was individual exotic tuning regarding the buff. Chances are we'll have individual tuning again. They've been doing that consistently for the past few seasons for tons of things when an entire archetype gets a hit. Also snipers as that set of notes says and this TWAB states we'll still have our +47% buff against red health bars. If red health bars are made more difficult a sniper rifle might still be good just for a different reason. Finally its Izanagi. Even with this nerf back to its S7 state lets not forget it was still a top 3 option and has been like top 5 since it was introduced in S5. So by no means is the gun going to become -blam!- and unusable and not worth it. We don't have auto reloading, nade launchers are getting nerfed, and Divinity exists. Consider the reasons for the nerf on top of it. They wanted to make snipers a better choice but they made them TOO good. Tons of people have said this and it needs to be reiterated because its true. Izanagi's was to the point of "have or get kicked" and in many instances was and still will be the only optimal gun for certain content. Master nightfall? Izanagi. Garden of Salvation and Crown of Sorrow? Izanagi. Anything that allows for safe sniping and has a boss to be melted? Izanagi. The nerf is fine because we already know the gun will be set back to a state in which we know its still a beast. Now its a beast but leaves room for other stuff to shine through, especially if we get any other buffs/changes that increase the amount of diversity. Do you want one dominant gun that never leaves your inventory constantly or a set of good guns that shift regularly and allow you to play the game in a variety of ways but still allows for you to use that old beast if you want to? Thats exactly what this nerf is.
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I would like to see box breathing buffed to balance the nerfs. Make similar to trench barrel were it lasts for 3 shots or 5 seconds.
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They should always balance heavy vs special snipers separately as well.
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You see them balancing snipers and other crap yet rockets have been suffering for the existence of the game. Priorities are making us less powerful it seems.
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Izagnami's Burden is getting a rate of fire decrease which will definitely lower its dps capability even if the damage stays the same. Total BS , dust off D.A.R.C.I. and Whisper.... maybe go Xenophage
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Bearbeitet von Soul_Eater_42: 2/25/2020 4:23:31 AMIzanagi's gonna get hit hard by the upcoming nerfs, since it's also an Adaptive Frame sniper--the archetype that's getting its Precision Modifier reduced. Ouch.
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D1 doesn’t get nerfs anymore. It’s so much fun😊
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Destiny 2 is quickly approaching the acquisition of a "Darwin Award"
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Bungie needs to be more transparent with how many implicit changes occur from the explicit adjustments, as there are (many) times where I don't think they know what else gets affected from their changes outside of those directly changed.
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They nerfed snipers because of the “must have Izanagi’s” etc. posts on LFG for nightfalls & other endgame stuff. Have fun trying to ape champions with shotguns in next seasons nightfalls.
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Yeah this game sucks
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I don’t know why they couldn’t separate the damage from pvp and pve like they have been doing since Forsaken. 90 rpms can no longer kill supers in pvp and 140s are mostly rendered useless since its now 3 body shots to kill.
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Bearbeitet von NYC_InfamousNick: 2/24/2020 8:45:17 PM[quote]Nothing is more frustrating when we have to come to our own conclusions when the answer is already in their hands.[/quote] This is the one aspect about Bungie that I despise and will never understand. If they’re gonna stick to their guns and just blanket nerf shit as they please, at least provide the in-depth information about what changes will occur. They’ve been good about giving numbers recently, but there’s far more to these patches than just “( )% nerf here and ( )% buff there”.
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Bearbeitet von Shirtless_Captain_Kirk: 2/24/2020 8:40:42 AMRemember when they laucnhed D2 and they fed us a line of b******* saying that they can Nerf one gun and not hit entire classes unlike D1? A great example of them lying about that is high impact frame Fusion rifle Nerf. Literally only one Fusion rifle was the problem and now they've nerfed an entire class. Sounds to me like Bungie lied their ass off again