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Bearbeitet von Laser Kittens:
11/13/2019 8:05:06 PM
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As it turns out, it's a PC issue.
If M&K users are willing to give up their lack of recoil, the problem would be solved.
***End Edit***
So I had been in the camp of "they're fine" until I watched some clips of some disgusting 1shots (full health) at unimaginable ranges.
They don't need much of a change though. Could be one or more of the following:
- An increase to recoil to help prevent all bolts landing at longer ranges.
- An increase in Charge Time to punish a user relying on out TTKing their opponent instead of playing smart.
- A tweak to Backup Plan: either reduced duration (only 1 burst), or reduced damage for the "backup shot(s)"
- Make Fusions projectile weapons instead of Hit Scan.
- An addition of damage dropoff to Fusion Bolts.
I don't feel too strongly about them though it seems many just really don't like em, or being killed by them at least.
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Bearbeitet von Wonderpill: 11/13/2019 7:17:14 PMYou are seeing people melt other people on PC. If these PC players get my Erentil Nerfed on Console, I am gonna be super pissed. It's hard enough to land enough bolts to kills someone, and it's not foolproof in the least. It takes FOREVER to charge up, unless you set your armor up to benefit from swapping weapons. Back-up plan is activated by switching weapons... This means you can be killed by a shotgun, or grenade launcher before you can swap. Yes, I can kill people using other weapons. Yes, I can use a shotgun and probably do better. I'm not using Jotunn. I'm using something that I have to correct WHILE I SHOOT IT. you can still shoulder charge 1 hit kill me, and not have to reload, and yes, that needs to be nerfed WAY before anyone even touches my dang Erentil. Also, they are not hitscan.
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Sorry to burst your bubble, but they're absolutely hitscan. Here's some current and ex-Bungie devs stating and explaining why in an old interview. Skip to about 24:16. https://youtu.be/vptSAUqUjjg
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So I had to go back and look and you're very right. Those were PC clips. I was right all along, Heavy Fusions are just fine. I won't feel bad about breaking my Erentil out ;) Backup Plan (although my personal favorite on it) is a [i]little[/i] strong though. I don't want to say Overpowered, but strong nonetheless. I could swear they are hit scan though. If they aren't projectiles and they aren't hit scan, what are they?
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If they were hitscan, you couldn't avoid the shots if they were set perfectly. they are similar to hitscan, where they will count all hits, that land but more often than not, they are hitting a TARGET of the player that WAS in a place where you aimed and fired, and then doing the calculations after the shot. So you as the person firing the weapon, need to wait to see if you actually damaged your target. Hit scan would let you play like you used a Shotgun, and keep going knowing you got the kill, because every other time you do the same thing it counts as a kill. Fusions don't do that, you either need to wait for the referee to show your kill on the feed, or take a second shot. If you go for the second shot, you are probably going to trade, because the referee didn't count your kill until after the other person got their shots in.
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They're hitscan. It's been confirmed in this interview. Skip to about 24:16. https://youtu.be/vptSAUqUjjg
