All the reasons that makes Destiny good makes the PVP just terrible (i would like to use other words, but they would be replace by -blam!-) There are so much stats and elements that have to be taken in considaration to determine the result of a duel. Someome fighting with the same weapons may have a huge advantage because of some gear, like OEM or some armor perks. When i shoot at people with my scout rifle, they simply do not die! They always keep 1% of their life, when i shoot at people using mida, my scout flinch so much it is impossible to kill him. The guy beat me not because he has more skill, but because he has a better weapon. People need to know this PVP does not deserve the status of video game, this is a medieval torture device. Stalin would force his political ennemies to play Crucible instead of sending them to the gulags if he had lived nowadays. If you wonder, yes i am quite salty, actually even more than the Dead Sea. You may say, "but why are you still playing then?" Because there are rewards blocked bwhind this activity and i want to have them. If this Crucible was not this insane and rewards easier to get, that's would make more sense. Because with a Crucible in this current state, having quest as hard as Not Forgotten or Randy't throwing knife is just stupid.