Liars handshake isn’t a thing in PvP, before they could complete a lunge they’ll get shotgunned. Stompees are great and again when I’m opening a thread talking about lethality (And I’ll repeat for the 5th time, Warlocks grenade 1 shot, titans melee one shot, hunters dodge has been the same since year 1) all anyone can say is that hunters aren’t good because players jump 🙄.... again this is not a problem for an experienced player, look up and shoot, and while you can train yourself to deal with vertical gameplay you can’t train your guardian to take less damage from the buffed grenade and melee abilities of warlocks and titans. When I play warlock and use blink and still juke hunters. If people can’t counter vertical play styles that a you problem not a class problem