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6/14/2019 2:40:37 PM
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If it wasn't required to be done in the strike Playlist it wouldn't be happening. But people want the Wendigo grind to go a little faster so they go to blind well. So the strike takes a little longer to complete, oh well. And besides if it bothers you that much why not take your own advice and run strikes with a team?
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Because he s no the one who isn't playing the objective of the playlist he queued for. He doesn't have to enter as a team. The ones that are not playing the activity they played for o the other hand are the ones who have to change
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You're forgetting that people who queue just to run blind well in the strike Playlist aren't queueing to run strikes. So they are queueing in to do what they queued in for. Yes he shouldn't have to run in a team just so he can run strikes, but until Bungie makes some sort of change to further limit the quest he can just do what everyone else does. When he loads into the corrupted she should get to the first darkness zone as fast as he can, die and then continue the strike. He pulls the remaining players in with him and it counts as a death to the other players making them lose progress on their quest. A dick move to counter people trying to manage time.
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Because when I load into strikes, I expect to play a strike. How are you unable to understand this? Your only stance is "it's faster to get quest done." I'm going to laugh when people start wiping in the first darkness zone to pull you in, and have it count as a death for you.
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I could care less about being pulled into a darkness zone. My problem with OP is that they are attacking people who are trying to get a quest done quickly. They could be doing it for a multitude of reasons, maybe they can't get online often but they still want the gun. So they'll load into the Playlist (because it's the only way to progress the quest), and go to blind well. Not to mention that if everyone is going for the quest there aren't that many enemies to kill. Besides you pulling players into the first darkness zone you see is a way to counter this. Just let people grind the quest out, this won't be a problem once the people that want to get Wendigo get it.
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You'll care when you start realizing getting pulled into a darkness zone counts as death and hinders your progress. It's meant to take time, it's a pinnacle weapon. The only people getting it the first 2 or 3 weeks are nerdy sweats who play 15 hours a day or people who focus solely on Wendigo. It take like 6-7 hours, tops, doing it the way you're supposed to that doesn't impede other player's experience. If you can't spend 6-7 hours earning a pve pinnacle weapon representative of a 4-month season, or refuse to get a team to dedicate 4-5 hours in a lost sector or blind well, then you don't deserve it. Plain and simple.
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I intend on getting it without running blind well, I'm just saying that people who are running blind well probably aren't fans of the strike Playlist. So they're only in it for Wendigo, again if it wasn't locked to just the Playlist you wouldn't see this. Loaded Question and Oxygen were "exploited" by loading into a nightfall and farming the required kills. Bungie obviously weren't fans of that fact so they forced this seasons vanguard pinnacle to only count in the Playlist, forcing some players to play something they don't like. This is their way of revolting against that change. Just let them grind it out, I don't see the big deal.
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In PvP you have to Do The Activity. In Gambit, you have to Do The Activity. Why is it different for PvE? Also, your assertion that people go to blind well or lost sectors because they don't like strikes holds absolutely no water. They're doing it because it's faster. No other reason.
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That's because in pvp and in gambit you're stuck in their respective maps. In strikes, you have free reign of the planetary map with the exception of Warden of Nothing. Not to mention that for the pvp pinnicles you can complete the quest in either quick play or comp (with the exception of Lunas and Not Forgotten). The players have a choice of how they want to complete it. With Wendigo and the gambit ones, there is no choice. There is no option for a faster completion time unlike the pvp quests. I'll use the mountaintop quest as an example here. You can complete the objectives in quick play and then reach fabled in comp, or you can do the who quest in comp with a x4 progress for the kills and medals requirements. The option is there. Now to compare it to the Wendigo quest you can only progress in the strike Playlist. No other option. Of course people are gonna find a way to get it done quickly. Maybe Bungie will learn that they can't force players to do something they don't want to do just to get a weapon.
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Or just expect strikes to be run as strikes not exploited.
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It's a faster way to get a really good weapon. It's like people pushing atheon off the edge or pulling your ethernet cord on Crota, people want things done fast. Running blind well in the strike Playlist is a way to get the grind done fast. If it allowed you to complete the steps in a nightfall we wouldn't have this problem. Don't blame the players, blame Bungie.
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It's called exploiting. I blame the player for choosing a cheap way to get something instead of embracing the challenge and earning it. I blame the player for exploiting and doing a solo objective in a matchmade cooperative playlist. With your other examples, people did eventually get it fixed by highlighting the problem. In the season of opulence there are runes, used to roll specific weapons in the menagerie...the best way for me to get them is doing strikes. Strikes are done for either kills/engrams or for completion bounties, Nothing about the bounty says you have to do it in the blind well. It is a selfish CHOICE, and a lazy way of doing something.
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While I see your point, you can't stop people from finding a quick and efficient way to grind something out. Are you going to say that people who run the same nightfall repeatedly trying to get the exclusive weapon are exploiting the game as well? Or that people who farm lost sectors to complete bounties faster are exploiting?
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No because they arent exploiting just doing something repetitve. The beef is that they are doing this in a public matchmade lobby and not doing the mission. When someone grinds a nightfall over and over...they're simply doing a mission over and over Driving my car to work on the right side of the road is acceptable no matter how often I do it. However if I drive on the wrong side of the road going anywhere it is not acceptable even once.
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Your analogy doesn't really work in this instance. Most people don't find the strikes in destiny 2 to be as fun as the strikes in destiny 1 so of course they're going to find ways to get in and get out fast in regards to the Wendigo quest. They're just farming kills, it just so happens that they have to farm them in the Playlist. Instead of attacking them and calling them selfish maybe you should look at yourself complaining about how others play a video game. If you really want to just run through strikes that badly go make a pre-made team and do that, let others play how they want.
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I would agree to one point, in that I personally wouldn't go into the strike then bail on the blueberries to run Blind Well. Especially if the Blind Well drags the Strike player to the Well, then I can see the complaint. Taking advantage of (or exploiting) something that Bungie didn't catch, isn't worth creating a channel to report people. For example, Bungie clearly didn't test properly and waddya know, I can skip a horrible jump puzzle by going to Petra and buy the maps. Yep, sign me up. This doesn't impact anyone so it's a bad example with regards to this post, to an extent, but it is an exploit. They left a door open. Why wouldn't I go through it? For that matter, being able to walk away from certain Strikes, like the current Blind Well strategy, isn't new to Destiny and clearly not high in their 'to do list' to correct. Maybe they shouldn't have stuck with just strikes that haven't been refreshed an awhile... I mean, how many times have you seen a random flee past all the things in a strike to get to a boss? Isn't that exploiting the strike? They could be far enough ahead to cause you to warp to them as well. They didn't leave the strike to do an exploit, they just want to finish it as fast as possible. However, that warp means I lost out on grenade kills because they were in a hurry to do more enjoyable things. I mention that here as an example of a nuisance I've experienced, but I didn't make a post about it and tell others like them how to play. Luckily, I have clan members to run around with. This means I won't annoy a blueberry with a runefinder, driving in the wrong lane...
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If it was not affecting the mission But what they're doing is wrong. I am not being selfish for joining an activity and wanting to complete the activity. The ones doing the exploit are in the wrong, theres no way around that
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It's not an exploit, the quest says get grenade launcher kills in the strike Playlist. They are getting those kills in the strike Playlist. It'd be an honor exploit if someone found a way to get the kills outside of the Playlist. But because it's still in the Playlist it's fair game. Just wait a while when the people grinding the quest thin out, until then just run into a darkness zone and die. That will drag anyone who isn't in that zone in with you. Problem solved.
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It is an exploit because that is not an intended use of the mechanic. Look up the definition. It isnt a hack... it is using the mechanics of the game to achieve an unintended result. However you want to twist it, its griefing to people who are running legit. It's not even debatable, it's an asshole move and selfish. Run it legit, or you dont deserve the gun. Simple.
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So by that logic does that mean that people who cheese riven dont deserve 1k? Or people who cheese atheon don't deserve their Mythoclast? Sure does it suck that you have to solo the strike until you get to a darkness zone? Yeah. Is it really that big of a deal? No. Stop making a mountain out of a molehill.
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It's wrong to do it. Period. Since you support exploiting I'll just mute you. I cant stand people who rationalize weakness into a perceived strength.
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Yes it does mean that. You didnt do the same challenge, you dont deserve the same reward. You used an exploit found most likely on youtube, not your skill or even creativity. You're defending people abusing the system.
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Except it is the same challenge. You still have to kill the raid bosses and still have to beat the raid. You still have to get all of the grenade launcher kills. It'd be an exploit if people found a way to complete it without needing the kills. All they're doing is getting the kills in a different zone in the Playlist.
