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Everybody on this thread needs to just quit complaining. We're dealing with some damn good devs (real PEOPLE like you and me), and they don't deserve the disrespect going on in this thread. If you think this game is broken, corrupt, et cetera, just don't play it. Moreover, if you want the triumph, JUST GRIND IT OUT. It's not a bounty (something meant to be simple and menial enough for absolutely anybody to be able to casually do it). It's a frickin' TRIUMPH. There's no triumph in having an achievement auto-complete. I am by no means a crucible god, and I still decided to bite the bullet both literally and metaphorically. You want some advice? Hold your breath for Equinox, The Citadel, Legion's Gulch, or Vostok. If you land any of these, pull out your Blast Furnace. For any other map, consider a bow or handcannon. If you've got it, a Not Forgotten and a Chaperone tend to keep you from wasting your time by getting non-precision kills. In any case, best of luck mates. P.S. If you're any of the people I referenced that decided to pitch a fit and show your ass, I'll be sure to keep an eye out for you in the Crucible... It'd be my pleasure to ruin a Jerk's grind. Edit 1: For the record, I'm genuinely sympathetic to the people here that are reasonably voicing their concerns. There are several examples of that in this thread... My post is NOT directed at those people. If your response didn't disrespect anybody, then carry on... As I've told a lot of people in this sub-thread, I completely respect that feedback, especially negative, is crucial to the communication process between devs and community. I just don't like the fact that people on these forums seem so comfortable forgetting that there are actual human -blam!-ing beings on the other side of that screen.
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  • Bearbeitet von CookieNiki: 4/24/2019 9:11:21 AM
    [quote]If you think this game is broken, corrupt, et cetera, just don't play it.[/quote] We paid for it we have the right to complain when Bungie screws up the game with their incompetence. The fact you can't understand this simple concept is appalling.

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  • I drew an unnecessary hard line in my post, what I'd intended to say was that complaining on a forum, and berating the developers isn't going to get anybody anywhere. Everybody has the right be leave feedback. It's a necessary element to communication between player base and the devs. That said, nobody has the right to be an asshole and expect nobody to eventually call them out.

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  • Shut up deej.

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  • I think this is my favorite response. I rather like to think if I were a Bungie dev though, I'd be dmg04.

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  • [quote]Everybody on this thread needs to just quit complaining. We're dealing with some damn good devs (real PEOPLE like you and me), and they don't deserve the disrespect going on in this thread. If you think this game is broken, corrupt, et cetera, just don't play it. Moreover, if you want the triumph, JUST GRIND IT OUT. It's not a bounty (something meant to be simple and menial enough for absolutely anybody to be able to casually do it). It's a frickin' TRIUMPH. There's no triumph in having an achievement auto-complete. I am by no means a crucible god, and I still decided to bite the bullet both literally and metaphorically. You want some advice? Hold your breath for Equinox, The Citadel, Legion's Gulch, or Vostok. If you land any of these, pull out your Blast Furnace. For any other map, consider a bow or handcannon. If you've got it, a Not Forgotten and a Chaperone tend to keep you from wasting your time by getting non-precision kills. In any case, best of luck mates. P.S. If you're any of the people I referenced that decided to pitch a fit and show your ass, I'll be sure to keep an eye out for you in the Crucible... It'd be my pleasure to ruin a Jerk's grind.[/quote] 1) Actually complaints are how customers are supposed to express dissatisfaction with a product they have purchased. 2) “Damn good devs” is an opinion not a fact. Since we are addressing the newest in a long list of mistakes they have made “damn good” is debatable. 3) I’m sure in general the devs are good people. Almost no one ever says they are bad people though, and being a good person doesn’t make you immune to criticism when you fail at performing your job. Which is what happened here. In general I like most of the devs I’ve seen comment publicly in the past, but that doesn’t give them a free pass when they ruin my enjoyment of the game. 4) Because the bug they shipped removed the Gambit playlist as an opportunity for progress it’s all crucible. The triumph tracking is also bugged and doesn’t correctly track orbs created by the revelry effect from precision kills. It also doesn’t proc on every precision kill so it’s RNG when you do what you’re supposed to if you get any progress. It’s all FUBAR. 5) The triumph, and the triumph that requires it are BOTH limited time triumphs. Not all players of the game that could have earned the triumph IF IT WASNT BROKEN can devote the time to earn it in the broken state. That’s why players ask for the autocomplete. You aren’t in control of other players. Sorry dude, we can chose what game we want to play, and we can give Bungie our feedback about what they are giving us for the money we gave them.

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  • Yea man... I was low key pissed when I wrote my response. It would have been a cop-out to change it just to make myself look better, so I've left it. That said, each of your points is valid, and if responses like THIS were all I'd seen, I wouldn't have bothered to say anything in the first place. My post was mostly directed at the people being assholes to the devs. They made the patch in order to ensure everybody could enjoy the game. It sucks, I personally can't stand it, but it's a fact of life. Acting like the developers are less than human just because they've inconvenienced you is entirely inappropriate.

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  • [quote]Yea man... I was low key pissed when I wrote my response. It would have been a cop-out to change it just to make myself look better, so I've left it. That said, each of your points is valid, and if responses like THIS were all I'd seen, I wouldn't have bothered to say anything in the first place. My post was mostly directed at the people being assholes to the devs. They made the patch in order to ensure everybody could enjoy the game. It sucks, I personally can't stand it, but it's a fact of life. Acting like the developers are less than human just because they've inconvenienced you is entirely inappropriate.[/quote] I understand what you’re saying for sure. I also appreciate you being willing to address it directly with me and not edit your post. That shows good character. I assumed you aren’t a bad person just like I assumed bungie aren’t bad people, and I assume the people who are flaming Bungie aren’t really and people just pissed off. Players really really care about this game, so they reactions are always very strong. I usually don’t see a lot of players attacking the devs. When I do AND the person has a valid point about the game I will usually respond to tell them they have a good point but they need to remove the insults if they want Bungie to listen or other players to agree. If they don’t have a valid point I just ignore them. Personally I want to see the game improve for everyone and be more successful so I will always post my feedback good or bad. If someone wants to talk about it I’ll do that with them.

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  • just a quick question? How's the taste of Bungie's ass?

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  • Oh my god. Can I use that line? I've never heard it before... That's gotta be the most revolutionary and unique comment I've ever heard. Your life must be super interesting, with you coming up with completely new and unheard of thoughts and retorts... You're probably really popular at parties too! Oh, what I wouldn't give to become a wolbeas... Alas, I'm destined to remain a Praetor Daemon. While we're using our best material, do you mind if I call you the "weakest link"?

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  • arent you getting a little too sensitive from a line that is not unique? I'd rather stick to the classics when they explain the situation perfectly :)

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  • You just struck me as the type of Internet troll who wanted attention; hence, I was giving it to you. If I misread that, oops I guess?

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  • yeah, your attention was all I need :D :D

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  • If they had a not forgotten do you think they would need your advice?

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  • Probably not; there's no damn way that they'd be on here complaining about a cheap 2 week grind if they DID have Not Forgotten... hence, why I brought it up. Some people here seemed to desperately lack that perspective on the situation.

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  • Bearbeitet von GFT Calf Slicer: 4/24/2019 5:12:03 AM
    In my humble opinion, I LOVE the change. All of the people telling me what a scrub, crutch using cry baby for not wanting skip nade fest in competitive now have to get a taste of this bullshit to get their special little emblem. Not so god dam fun is it.

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  • Bearbeitet von PraetorDaemon: 4/24/2019 5:16:23 AM
    I don't know... I rather enjoyed the grind. To each their own though. If nothing else, it felt a lot better than the Thorn grind.

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  • I like the fact that this Triumph originally gave you an option between Crucible or Gambit. With the grenade spam I opted to do it in Gambit to start. I don't mind Crucible but the grenade spam is just ridiculous and makes it harder to get the Triumph done. Now that they have disabled this in Gambit and Crucible is the only option that is exactly what I'm doing, but I'm not happy that I've been forced into doing it this way instead of it being my choice. When they realized it was broken they should have fixed it instead of forcing people to do something they didn't want to do

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  • Bearbeitet von PraetorDaemon: 4/24/2019 4:17:54 PM
    ^ Amen... To be fair though, I doubt they could have fixed it before the Revelry was over.

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  • See, I don't know how accurate that is. Because they advised that they were able to remove it from competitive oh, so I don't understand why they couldn't fix the orb Generation for Gambit or change the spamming grenades for quick play. Why are they able to fix something in competitive but not these other options? Don't get me wrong, I guess if they had to fix one competitive was the one to fix since so many people are working hard to get Luna's howl and not forgotten and recluse. But just kind of irks me that the rest of us get the short end of the stick because that takes priority

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  • Good afternoon I think you start your email with a big mistake because it literally says "Everybody on this thread needs to just quit complaining" You have to understand that I and any consumer of a product can complain at a given time for its malfunction, regardless of whether the designers are personal like us and act in good faith. That yes, always with education and showing what is the problem and what solution will be given or asked to be given. All consumers of Destiny have the right to say what we think as users and freely express our opinion (I insist, with education and data verification) Oh, and please, I'm not worth "if you're not interested do not play," I have paid and unless they returned the €, I could comment and complain about the problems you think appropriate. Regards

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  • I agree... I definitely made an inadvertent hard line with my initial statement... I'd redact that specific sentence if possible, but eh... I'm relatively okay with it, and I'm not going to go back and edit my original response just to make myself look better. You're correct that you can continue to complain all you want... I was just making the point that it's not doing you any good, and disrespecting hardworking men and women is never excusable.

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  • Listen up you apologist, I paid good money and put a lot of hours into this game. I expect the game to perform as promised. Revelry is still borken and I have put dozens of hours into this game this last week alone, and still have nonprogress in the borken triumph. I have a right to complain about a product that doesn't work as intended.

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  • "Listen up you apologist"? Okay. Yea, I'm pretty sure we all paid "good money and put a lot of hours into this game". That said, you complain all you want... So long as you didn't openly disrespect anybody, I'm ultimately okay with it. I'm just throwing my 2 cents into the hat, and I make no apologies about my statement that -blam!- isn't going to get anybody anywhere.

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  • Complaining does work. that's why companies have suctomer service lines....to hear about problems so they can fix it! enough complaints and there is a chance of losing money, which makes a company change the way they do business.

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  • Me and you have very different philosophies. If you want to go through your life praying that enough people -blam!- along-side you so you can get your way, go ahead I guess.

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