Your argument falls apart when you call the game a technical Marvel.. If you had any clue as to what’s been happening to the game you know it’s biggest problem causing everything from small vault space to way to slow updates.. Is the game engine they use is one of the worst their is... Bungie took the years of “constructive” feedback and ignored it.. And let’s be honest.. Graphics wise Destiny isn’t special.. Sure it looks good.. Though so does every other triple a game.. Your apologizing for a terrible company and then lecturing the op for doing the exact opposite..

[quote]Your argument falls apart when you call the game a technical Marvel.. If you had any clue as to what’s been happening to the game you know it’s biggest problem causing everything from small vault space to way to slow updates.. Is the game engine they use is one of the worst their is... Bungie took the years of “constructive” feedback and ignored it.. And let’s be honest.. Graphics wise Destiny isn’t special.. Sure it looks good.. Though so does every other triple a game.. Your apologizing for a terrible company and then lecturing the op for doing the exact opposite..[/quote] Hold on a tick. I don’t think my argument falls about with calling this game technically marvelous. It works and looks good. It works as if designed by a Triple A developer. It isn’t glitchy out of the box and it isn’t mired in server outages. Look at Sea of Thieves and Fortnite as examples. I think for a game with as large of a player base as it had and as in-depth as it is, is working well and that is marvelous. Maybe my threshold is lower than yours, so we’ll just say it is subjective and I’ll acknowledge I could be wrong. Not, don’t construe my words to mean this game is without flaws and Bungie is without fault. This game could improve and so to could Bungie. Now, as far as the “biggest problems” go, not sure vault space is it. Slow updates maybe. I think the biggest problem is Bungie’s desire to foist their vision on a player base which has a mind of its own. And I agree with the feedback about Destiny 1; Bungie had the opportunity and failed to take advantage of it, but that’s now what the OP is going on about. The OP simply says Bungie is not a Triple A developer and should “end.” I think “end[ing]” Bungie is the antithesis to what we want, personally. We want a better game. Now, Bungie is not a terrible company and I say that unapologetically. They’ve made bad decisions, sure. They’re working on it. I wish they’d work faster, but I am an adult and I instant these things take time. My life is not centered around this game and I can afford to hang with the lapses between updates. Now, going back to my original claim: Bungie doesn’t need to “end” as the OP would have them. The OP is being a drama queen. Bungie isn’t undeserving of a Triple A status (nor are they exemplary of it). I believe it is far more helpful to criticize with the intent to improve, versus destroy. I’ll stick by that until my dying day.

Your opinion is fine.. And so is the ops.. It is fact however bungie is using a very poor game engine and it is a cause behind a lot of problems.. As far as you saying it has few bugs I’d like to know what game your playing? Every time bungie tries to fix something they break something else.. Fated engrams, tower black screen, chests not dropping loot, strikes being frozen with no way to finish, Random kicks to orbit, the list goes on and on.. This doesn’t even get into the way they outright lie.. Throttled xp and tokens, everise, their new “improved” engine, the “we’re listening” posts.. I don’t mean to be an ass but at a certain point your not just supporting a company.. Your enabling them.. Bungie has earned all the hate and then some.. They as a developer are as shady and incompetent as it gets.. It is time for them to stop being propped up by the apologists.. If a game like destiny is to be saved.. Bungie needs to be out of the equation.. The attitude of.. I can wait for it to get better.. Is exactly why it never will.. They know there’s plenty of people who cling to that fallacy in an endless cycle.. People should not have to wait over a year after they purchase a game to get a half way decent product...

[quote]Your opinion is fine.. And so is the ops.. It is fact however bungie is using a very poor game engine and it is a cause behind a lot of problems.[/quote] I disagree. The major problems with this game stem from poor design vision, not the engine. The engine exacerbates thing by making fixes complicated. Problems like “the weapons are weak” or “PvP is too slow and dependent on team shooting” owe nothing to the game engine, yet are why people don’t play this game. [quote]As far as you saying it has few bugs I’d like to know what game your playing? Every time bungie tries to fix something they break something else.. Fated engrams, tower black screen, chests not dropping loot, strikes being frozen with no way to finish, Random kicks to orbit, the list goes on and on.[/quote] I don’t see it. Perhaps it is what I am doing. I mainly raid and play Prestige Nightfalls. Patrols, Story Missions and normal strikes are not my thing. Perhaps I missed something along the way. The Exodus strike is the only strike I know of that had (or has?) an issue that required players to reload zones to proceed. Leviathan does have a re-spawn glitch, so I also concede to that. The rest of it seems like connection issues. I think playing on WiFi or using DSL (or both) are the real culprits of black screens, kicks and glitches. I use a hard wired, cable connection at 150 down and 10 up. No issues for me. [quote]This doesn’t even get into the way they outright lie.. Throttled xp and tokens, everise, their new “improved” engine, the “we’re listening” posts.. I don’t mean to be an ass but at a certain point your not just supporting a company.. Your enabling them..[/quote] These are legitimate issues, but they are not design flaws. They aren’t indicative of whether or not a company is or isn’t Triple A. They are bad business decisions. And no, I am not enabling Bungie. I am critical and took about two months off this game to put a fine point on my criticisms. The game has improved in such a fashion that I play it. Bungie has made commitments to further improve this game to where I feel justified in that return. [quote]Bungie has earned all the hate and then some.. [/quote] Debatable. They have earned fair criticism, but telling them to kill themselves or die in a ditch or whatever colorful and disastrous ends dimwits come up with are unearned. Not that you have done the latter, but please understand that a lot of folks aren’t reasonable in their assessments. [quote]They as a developer are as shady and incompetent as it gets.. It is time for them to stop being propped up by the apologists.. If a game like destiny is to be saved.. Bungie needs to be out of the equation..[/quote] Bungie has engaged in shady activity and I 100% agree with your assessment as such. Not sure anyone is propping up those decisions. I don’t think removing Bungie from development is the decision to make, but that’s my opinion. [quote]The attitude of.. I can wait for it to get better.. Is exactly why it never will.. They know there’s plenty of people who cling to that fallacy in an endless cycle.. People should not have to wait over a year after they purchase a game to get a half way decent product...[/quote] Agreed. It sucks to wait a year, but The Division, No Man’s Sky, Rainbow 6 and other games took a year to sort themselves out. Not a good business decision and their developers paid for it. People are right to be jaded with Bungie and I, for one, will not preorder any other Bungie content as a result.

To be honest I really don’t even care about destiny or bungie anymore.. I surpassed my breaking point a couple months ago out of pure bordum.. I spent my time carrying people through prestige nightfall’s and regular so they could get it done.. Rewarding feeling.. The raid I hated.. To me it was an event.. Not a raid.. Jumping through hoops (literally), Stealth?.. Boss himself was okay but lacked rewards.. As soon as I got my team through that place I ran for the hills.. Loved Destiny raiding 🙁.. Did you know they removed torrent as a nightfall mod??? The single most fun thing in the game.. Gone... I usually just come on here to dispute when people say dumb things.. I’m not meaning you.. Just in general when I chime in it’s usually to troll some kid being an ass about something.. My new endgame..