I like how much people say "hunters are useless for pve" but yet the only thing that really makes them useless is the player. Your class doesn't shoot your guns, your main source of damage, it doesn't determine you only have to be Titan and warlock to be viable. Considering how long it takes for a Titans barrier to recover compared to the hunters roll is also of great significance, same with the warlock rift. Supers already take much longer to regenerate, same with abilities, so really the only problem is the person's competence, and his/her ability to listen/give correct orders. The gun doesn't shoot for you. ...also don't let people act like that.