That's cool if you're playing potatoes, try those tactics against good players guarantee you rage quit out of frustration.

So tell what's that counter I should be using? Ive been asking this question for weeks and still nobody can give a good answer.

Why the F would I want to tell you how to counter me lmao. I mean it's not a magical secret there are various ways depending on your subclass. MOST OF THE TIME: *Disclaimer* These are not 100% because of the timing of everything. You can use these moves and still die. For the last point I see people do this a lot and the ones that do repeat it all round. I am not sure how but my guess is they hear the ticking. They also never move the same direction as the nade. -Shadestep will shake it off -Shoulder Charge will aswell -People do blink out of them -People also jump out of them quiet often

[quote]Why the F would I want to tell you how to counter me lmao. I mean it's not a magical secret there are various ways depending on your subclass. MOST OF THE TIME: *Disclaimer* These are not 100% because of the timing of everything. You can use these moves and still die. For the last point I see people do this a lot and the ones that do repeat it all round. I am not sure how but my guess is they hear the ticking. They also never move the same direction as the nade. -Shadestep will shake it off -Shoulder Charge will aswell -People do blink out of them -People also jump out of them quiet often[/quote] CONTINUED* -You can kill the person which releases the stick -You can bum rush them at close range -You can hit the grenade (I only saw this once. Me and someone else both threw on at eachother and they collided and blew up) -You can team shoot them to death(In my view the animation completes but the grenade never come out). -KEEP MOVING AND DONT CAMP! easiest targets are the snipers at far range. Close up the tracking has to curve too much and falls off. Most of you getting stuck are likley NOT MOVING! You are trying to camp or pin an area down. Or you are all clustered together right by a door way. I am always moving in every game so I dont even really notice stickies too much. Every now and again. Hope that helps

Just saw these now. I wish killing the person would make the nade fall off, that would be a perfect counter imo. But alas I still trade with people that I totally outgun because they throw a last second sticky. See Ive talked about this with other people and they say not too rush and to keep your distance. So seems like neither one is a good option according to this. I have never shot one. Moving obviously will help, but the tracking/magnetism makes up for it. If it didnt have that tracking I'd agree that the grenades wouldnt be OP because it'd actually be hard to hit a moving target. Thank you sincerely for trying- still not the counter Im looking for though.

[quote]Just saw these now. I wish killing the person would make the nade fall off, that would be a perfect counter imo. But alas I still trade with people that I totally outgun because they throw a last second sticky. See Ive talked about this with other people and they say not too rush and to keep your distance. So seems like neither one is a good option according to this. I have never shot one. Moving obviously will help, but the tracking/magnetism makes up for it. If it didnt have that tracking I'd agree that the grenades wouldnt be OP because it'd actually be hard to hit a moving target. Thank you sincerely for trying- still not the counter Im looking for though.[/quote] No it certainly isnt. You want easy and no move in the game has an easy counter. I dont care if you believe me or not. Im not gonna argue wiyh someone that made up his mind. Have a good day

There is NO counter for stickies though. NONE. If there was even a difficult counter I'd use it. But obviously there isnt.

I main nightstalker... I think I've survived twice by shadestepping when I was stuck. Dont know why and dont think it is supposed to happen... Anyway that is not even close a reliable counter. So... still waiting for that viable counter. [spoiler]Guarantee you cant come up with one, nobody can (because there isnt one)[/spoiler]

You probably stepped AFTER you were stuck. Do it when you hear the ticking. If its stuck thats it.

Ive tried everything- right when I see them throw it, right when I hear it tick, right when I see it coming at me- nothing works. I actually took this into a private match to try it out and the only time I could survive is when you get stuck in the foot and you shadestep into a wall. Weird but you could survive that about 50% of the time. Anyway that counter?

[quote]Ive tried everything- right when I see them throw it, right when I hear it tick, right when I see it coming at me- nothing works. I actually took this into a private match to try it out and the only time I could survive is when you get stuck in the foot and you shadestep into a wall. Weird but you could survive that about 50% of the time. Anyway that counter?[/quote] I mean I see it all the time. I don't know how they are doing it I am just guessing. Titans actually to it the most believe it or not. Warlocks suck and almost never shake them. Hunters that know how do it through the entire match but it isn't often I see them. I also see people who don't even know they are doing it which is why I guessed its the ticks. I honestly am not sure when they do it or how they know. I just know they do it over and over so it's intentional. But I do see people good at jumping out of them. They always do it at an awkawrd angle so maybe they break the track? Nothing in this game is a 1 button counter....NOTHING. Please dont get mad at me because I didnt tell you a secret code. I tried to help by telling you what I see as someone that uses them. It can be done and people are doing it. I will practice with you in a private if you want though.

Well considering that all the streamers are also complaining about them and yet I havent seen a viral video go out about using any of those methods to reliably counter them Im gonna go ahead and call bs. Cause if any of those were even close to reliable you damn well know there'd be a popular video out about it. There is and should be a counter to everything in this game except supers and heavy to an extent. Sticky nades are the one thing that breaks that mold. This is by definition OP and in need of a nerf. [spoiler]Unless of course... you have that counter.[/spoiler]

[quote]Well considering that all the streamers are also complaining about them and yet I havent seen a viral video go out about using any of those methods to reliably counter them Im gonna go ahead and call bs. Cause if any of those were even close to reliable you damn well know there'd be a popular video out about it. There is and should be a counter to everything in this game except supers and heavy to an extent. Sticky nades are the one thing that breaks that mold. This is by definition OP and in need of a nerf. [spoiler]Unless of course... you have that counter.[/spoiler][/quote] You sound like a very lazy sheep. Go ahead and follow the cries. Figures you watch streamers lmao. Why dont you all go change your diapers together because you're being a sour baby. I don't complain about anyone elses abilities and I don't need to lie to you. The fact you think Im up here trying to make stuff up is the best joke I have heard all week. So go put your head back in the sand like a scared little bird. If I ever see you ingame I would love to sticky the dog turd out of you. You want a mental crutch to cry about. Nightstalkers run from gun fight, use smoke, grenades and then talk about gunskill. Even your super is a 3 shot super that is a 1hk and traps, supresses and allows your team to help you kill. Talk about crutch class my word. It must suck to have that many tools and still want more help.

[quote]You sound like a very lazy sheep. Go ahead and follow the cries. Figures you watch streamers lmao. Why dont you all go change your diapers together because you're being a sour baby. [/quote] This is my own opinion actually and one that I have always had since I started playing this game. I dont watch twitch streamers but I watch some youtube videos from time to time. I dont worship them like a lot of players do but it is interesting to hear the POVs of players of all skill levels. [quote]I don't complain about anyone elses abilities and I don't need to lie to you. The fact you think Im up here trying to make stuff up is the best joke I have heard all week. So go put your head back in the sand like a scared little bird. If I ever see you ingame I would love to sticky the dog turd out of you.[/quote] Yea you probably would stick me cause they're your crutch and you probably couldnt beat me with a gun. I dont complain about any other abilities either because they all have viable counters- which, in case I havent said, stickies do not have. [quote]You want a mental crutch to cry about. Nightstalkers run from gun fight, use smoke, grenades and then talk about gunskill. Even your super is a 3 shot super that is a 1hk and traps, supresses and allows your team to help you kill. Talk about crutch class my word. It must suck to have that many tools and still want more help.[/quote] I admit nightstalker is one of the stronger classes in the game right now, and it is very fun and unique to use as well. But nothing on it is OP, there is a counter to everything they have. Although the fact that you think quiver is sooo good tells me that you for one dont use nightstalker and two have no idea what you are talking about (In higher level play quiver is terrible). If Im playin trials and I see someone using quiver I can tell they arent a good player- that simple. But I see you still cant name that counter. Must be nice having easy, free kills every 20 seconds... Lucky for you dont think bungo will be doing anymore patches on D1, so enjoy that crutch of yours until D2 launches.

[quote][quote]You sound like a very lazy sheep. Go ahead and follow the cries. Figures you watch streamers lmao. Why dont you all go change your diapers together because you're being a sour baby. [/quote] This is my own opinion actually and one that I have always had since I started playing this game. I dont watch twitch streamers but I watch some youtube videos from time to time. I dont worship them like a lot of players do but it is interesting to hear the POVs of players of all skill levels. [quote]I don't complain about anyone elses abilities and I don't need to lie to you. The fact you think Im up here trying to make stuff up is the best joke I have heard all week. So go put your head back in the sand like a scared little bird. If I ever see you ingame I would love to sticky the dog turd out of you.[/quote] Yea you probably would stick me cause they're your crutch and you probably couldnt beat me with a gun. I dont complain about any other abilities either because they all have viable counters- which, in case I havent said, stickies do not have. [quote]You want a mental crutch to cry about. Nightstalkers run from gun fight, use smoke, grenades and then talk about gunskill. Even your super is a 3 shot super that is a 1hk and traps, supresses and allows your team to help you kill. Talk about crutch class my word. It must suck to have that many tools and still want more help.[/quote] I admit nightstalker is one of the stronger classes in the game right now, and it is very fun and unique to use as well. But nothing on it is OP, there is a counter to everything they have. Although the fact that you think quiver is sooo good tells me that you for one dont use nightstalker and two have no idea what you are talking about (In higher level play quiver is terrible). If Im playin trials and I see someone using quiver I can tell they arent a good player- that simple. But I see you still cant name that counter. Must be nice having easy, free kills every 20 seconds... Lucky for you dont think bungo will be doing anymore patches on D1, so enjoy that crutch of yours until D2 launches.[/quote] It is your opinion and yet you validate it using others. You mentioned streamers not me. I would use sticky because it is my right and ability. The fact you hate it is icing on the cake. I never said how good or bad your super is. I am pointing out how little that subclass actually uses straight up gun skill. Everything it does is designed to weaken people, allow you to run, or have your allies help you. Lastly there is no counter for a handicap mind. You already believe you are beat by this weapon and gave up looking for answers. What you are doing now is trying to bully others because you are frusterated. Sunsinger has no movement perks or surpressions. We are forced to win an engagement or die. If I see someone trying to kill me I will use my abilities just like you.

I dont need others to validate my opinion lol I have my own logic to back it up. Fact of the matter is all classes have abilities used to weaken people. Im all for gunskill being used to decide 1v1's, Im always vouching for primary buffs for this reason actually. So yea I use my abilities to weaken enemies when I can- but unlike your sticky nades I have to follow up with a push and some gun shots. You just get to float away and listen for the boom. My mind is far from handicap my friend. Everytime someone complains abot shotguns, snipers, warlock melees, lightning nades, etc. I tell them to stop crying and that they are easy to counter by such and such way. Sticky nades are the one thing I cant find a consistent counter for, and obviously nobody else has come up with one yet either. And I agree with your last point about warlocks in general- that is why I always defend their melee when people call it OP (and i dont even use a warlock). So yes you have your melee to help you in close quarters since your movement sucks, sticky nades are a different story though. I can outplay a warlock melee by keeping my distance- i cant outplay a sticky nade.

[quote]I dont need others to validate my opinion lol I have my own logic to back it up. Fact of the matter is all classes have abilities used to weaken people. Im all for gunskill being used to decide 1v1's, Im always vouching for primary buffs for this reason actually. So yea I use my abilities to weaken enemies when I can- but unlike your sticky nades I have to follow up with a push and some gun shots. You just get to float away and listen for the boom. My mind is far from handicap my friend. Everytime someone complains abot shotguns, snipers, warlock melees, lightning nades, etc. I tell them to stop crying and that they are easy to counter by such and such way. Sticky nades are the one thing I cant find a consistent counter for, and obviously nobody else has come up with one yet either. And I agree with your last point about warlocks in general- that is why I always defend their melee when people call it OP (and i dont even use a warlock). So yes you have your melee to help you in close quarters since your movement sucks, sticky nades are a different story though. I can outplay a warlock melee by keeping my distance- i cant outplay a sticky nade.[/quote] Im done arguing. Have a good day

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What's the counter to getting caught in a smoke?

Before it was nerfed there wasnt any. Now just jump lol. Amazing how many people dont know this...

Kinda hard to jump when you're slowed...

Used to be impossible- it was OP, it isnt anymore. It honestly isnt hard to escape if you jump. I usually just shadestep out cause i main nightstalker but when Im on goldie jumping works just as well.