1.both players go to tower. 2. Try to join team leader. 3. After it gives you the can not join player message have the person who is going to be the team leader go into orbit while the other stays on tower. 4 After the team leader is in orbit stay there and do not touch anything and have the person on the tower log out of destiny. 5. Soon as you can log back in and join the team leader waiting in space. This has worked for me my cousin and my father. It has worked 100% of the time for us. Bungie you really failed to fix a game you broke because you didn't want the PS3 and Xbox 360 to have the new stuff. I didn't want to post this because it seems bungie "fixes" these work arounds when people post them. I hope it works for anyone else having problems. Psn Moxionx Quietman J_B_F