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2/13/2015 12:37:36 PM
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Explain how you think he's random? Moron.
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  • GG [quote]Xur is randomized, Guardians. Sorry to say I don't have control over his inventory. The video you're referencing is months old. Back then, I was still coming to understand how Xur works. I was wrong. That's right. I was wrong! So very wrong. If I could bend Xur to my will, I would have a Gjallarhorn, too. And a Red Death. A Hard Light would be nice. I wouldn't mind a Universal Remote. We're in the same boat. Please focus your chatter on the features you want to see in the game. A Xur wish list is not something I can honor. Thanks.[/quote]

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  • Not correct, probability and math people...use it!

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  • GG

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  • Drink that koolaid. Taste good?

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  • No, your tears taste better.

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  • Pretty Sure xur is based on a RNG% bungie wouldn't put out heavy ammo synthesis for no reason for so many weeks in a row.

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  • Stupid face!

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  • Explain how you think he's not? I have pretty valid arguments in my opinion, but I'm afraid you won't be able to view them objectively and let your hard feelings cloud your judgement.

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  • There's a vid on YouTube floating around with Deej himself stating that Xür isn't random.

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  • [quote]There's a vid on YouTube floating around with Deej himself stating that Xür isn't random.[/quote] And DeeJ has said multiple times that vid is from when he was new, didn't know the mechanics, and he said he was wrong.

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  • Or he just said that to cover his own ass, maybe?

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  • If they straight up tell him there's a plan for Xur that they want to keep secret, I'm pretty sure there'd be a Non Disclosure Agreement to go with that info. You don't hand out trade secrets without a NDA. If you're going to wear a tin foil hat and believe in Illuminati conspiracies, at least look for the credible ones. Half life 3 confirmed. At the end of the day, it's a video game and I don't think it's serious enough for them to lie. They get no tangible benefit from lying about him being RNG when he's actually controlled, which is another reason why I think they're telling the truth.

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  • Of course Half-Life 3 is confirmed. Who didn't know that!?

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  • Bearbeitet von Lewie730: 2/13/2015 1:27:06 PM
    [quote][quote]There's a vid on YouTube floating around with Deej himself stating that Xür isn't random.[/quote] And DeeJ has said multiple times that vid is from when he was new, didn't know the mechanics, and he said he was wrong.[/quote] That's called covering your behind. Xur is far from random, if it's random, how could he sell EXACTLY the same armor and weapons week 17 & 21 I believe, what are the odds? I call BS to random, especially combined with DeeJ himself saying it's not and there's a plan. Wake up my friend.

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  • [quote]how could he sell EXACTLY the same armor and weapons week 17 & 21 I believe, what are the odds?[/quote] The odds are the same of him selling something else. What he sold on 17 has no bearing on 21. It's random. Do you really think Bungie said "You know what a good (or bad, if we want to piss them off) idea would be? Let's sell Sunbreakers 4 or 5 times in a row."

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  • [quote][quote]how could he sell EXACTLY the same armor and weapons week 17 & 21 I believe, what are the odds?[/quote] The odds are the same of him selling something else. What he sold on 17 has no bearing on 21. It's random. Do you really think Bungie said "You know what a good (or bad, if we want to piss them off) idea would be? Let's sell Sunbreakers 4 or 5 times in a row."[/quote] Really? random? 4 items and the upgrades. come up exactly the same. If you think it's RNG, you're full of it. You never answered the question, what are the odds of all of that coming up the same? Very, miniscule. Almost impossible. It should be years before that EXACT SAME roll comes out.

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  • [quote][quote][quote]how could he sell EXACTLY the same armor and weapons week 17 & 21 I believe, what are the odds?[/quote] The odds are the same of him selling something else. What he sold on 17 has no bearing on 21. It's random. Do you really think Bungie said "You know what a good (or bad, if we want to piss them off) idea would be? Let's sell Sunbreakers 4 or 5 times in a row."[/quote] Really? random? 4 items and the upgrades. come up exactly the same. If you think it's RNG, you're full of it. You never answered the question, what are the odds of all of that coming up the same? Very, miniscule. Almost impossible. It should be years before that EXACT SAME roll comes out.[/quote] I can't tell you exact odds because I don't know the pool. How many weapons, how many armor pieces, how are stats determined, etc. Nor do I actually care enough to solve it on my day off from work. You're going to believe what you're going to believe, regardless of what I say, and same with me.

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  • I believe Deej when he flat out said that it is not random, there is a plan. That's what I believe. Did you watch the video, if not then you don't know what you are talking about.

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  • I did watch the video, but I believe him when he's said, most recently, that he was mistaken because he was new. It's a game, and no where near serious. They don't have reason to lie, in my opinion.

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  • [quote]I did watch the video, but I believe him when he's said, most recently, that he was mistaken because he was new. It's a game, and no where near serious. They don't have reason to lie, in my opinion.[/quote] He is NEW? five years is new? Maybe Bungie doesn't want people to know that they control what he sells. It is almost statistically impossible for him to sell that many items exactly the same two different weeks.

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  • [quote][quote]I did watch the video, but I believe him when he's said, most recently, that he was mistaken because he was new. It's a game, and no where near serious. They don't have reason to lie, in my opinion.[/quote] He is NEW? five years is new? Maybe Bungie doesn't want people to know that they control what he sells. It is almost statistically impossible for him to sell that many items exactly the same two different weeks.[/quote] He was new to Destiny, not Bungie. And he's not a programmer, so he's not in tune with all the nuances of the game. And do you know the exact pool that Xur uses for his RNG? Because I don't. And of you don't either, you can't say it's statistically impossible. And almost nothing is impossible, just improbable.

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  • [quote][quote][quote]I did watch the video, but I believe him when he's said, most recently, that he was mistaken because he was new. It's a game, and no where near serious. They don't have reason to lie, in my opinion.[/quote] He is NEW? five years is new? Maybe Bungie doesn't want people to know that they control what he sells. It is almost statistically impossible for him to sell that many items exactly the same two different weeks.[/quote] He was new to Destiny, not Bungie. And he's not a programmer, so he's not in tune with all the nuances of the game. And do you know the exact pool that Xur uses for his RNG? Because I don't. And of you don't either, you can't say it's statistically impossible. And almost nothing is impossible, just improbable.[/quote] I said ALMOST impossible. With 19 weapons on the table and way more for the upgrade table, to have that be exactly the same twice is so mathematically IMPROBABLE , that you have to have your head in the sand to think he is RNG. That's like having the same set of lottery numbers hit 2 weeks in a month. Impossible no, improbable yes. There was a post where some one crunched the numbers on the probability of it happening. It is darn near impossible man, combine that with what DeeJ said, Bungie controls him man, wake up. The only mistake DeeJ made in that video was spill the beans. He is covering his butt now. What's he gonna say, of course he is going to say he made a mistake. He sounded pretty damn sure he knew what he was talking about.

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  • Lol you obviously know nothing of odds or probability or how common denominators work... pretty much you don't understand math at all. It is statistically impossible for Xur to sell something weeks in a row across multiple categories. That like the same lottery number coming up multiple weeks in a row or being struck by lightning 25 times in the same spot. Your lack of ability to understand this concept and the community in general makes me fear the state of humanity. You're all idiots!

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  • No it's not statistically impossible. The lottery, depending on which you look at, have six or so numbers, on a 1-20 scale. Just picking numbers at random, so their chance is greater. Destiny doesn't have that large of a pool weapons and armor, so the chance is different. But you're right, I haven't passed statistics or calculus in college, and have no clue what I'm talking about with math (that's sarcasm, as I have passed both those courses, and with A's).

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  • Wall street is full of unemployed traders who lost everything to multiple "statistical impossibilities". You must be one. Something something small sample size something something....

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